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In Reply to: LOTR. Return of the King. posted by edta on March 18, 2004 at 06:26:17:
Should I really write this?
Follow Ups:
Damn it Patrick, don't make me Bring out the Jewish comedian with buck teeth again!
You can DO every thing to me but NO more this.....
nt
Non, Mssr., you're incessant disparaging of these films and insulting of the tastes of those who've enjoyed them is not amusing and you shouldn't have written this.AuPh
I am very deceived of your response, I though you could grown over you.
But, helas you can not. Obviously.PS: Are you Puritan?
And worst you take yourself seriously...
No sense of humor..tssss...Insulting? Are you really thinking that?
He wasn't asking for your approval or mine; he was making a sincere appraisal based upon his recent viewing of the film; you undercut that! He deserves an apology as does Dmitry for your comments in the other thread.AuPh
nt
Patrick's "kaka" post has an intimidation element that's easily overlooked. If I were new to this forum or a regular who found such incivility not conducive to sharing opinions, I might be hesitant to post here at all; in fact I'd probably just leave as some are apparently doing now.IMHO, that's why this forum is looking more and more like the private message board for personal communications between Victor, Patrick and a few others. That's one reason why splitting the forum into separate Domestic and European ...or Hollywood and Foreign ...or Heinz Spicy and French's Grey Poupon ...or Mainstreet Filmways and Art-House Alley might not be such a bad idea. :o)
Food for thought.
AuPh
Agree on the private message board comment. Disagree on the need to split the board. If everyone just stuck to movies and related subjects we'd all be a lot better off.
...when folks call other folk's personal tastes "kaka" because they don't like the success of a particular film it has a chilling effect on discussion. I'm neither prejudiced against foreign films nor against European inmates expressing their heartfelt opinions, but language can either be a barrier to communication or a tool dependent upon it's use. In retrospect, I'm pretty sure that Patrick regrets posting what he thought was a joke, but as far as I can tell no simple apology has been forthcoming, just a basic "Oooops! Did I miss my mark?" type of response. What's worse is the support (i.e., reinforcement) for this sort of bad behavior from Victor.Perhaps splitting the board is too much to ask, but I'd like to see less rancor and more discussion of relevent points from the art-house crowd about films many folks find impressive.
AuPh
For the whiners, liars and personal insulters.Some fit more than one category.
Yesterday they clogged this forum so badly you could not find a movie-related post here.
Looks like some of them are back today.
Perhaps the Bored can even install a Babelfish translator for the subtle language nuances (i.e., complete with a little flashing Jerry Lewis icon when a joke is indicated) and a special oxygen mask accessory for Euro-mustard artsy-fartsy hyperbole; the only question remaining is whether the Asylum can afford all this and the shovels required to remove all the "kaka" you've already deposited over here! ;^)AuPh
Dmitry told you that rather clearly - not in a subtle polite way I usually do, so you might heed that warning.You go to the whiners road...
No, it is YOUOUOU who go there!
I told you I haven't seen anyone respond like that since I left the kindergarten... until I saw your posts.
Get a humor teacher.
BTW, as I've clearly stated numerous times before, ad nauseum, I tend to be a counter-puncher when verbally attacked; I respond IN-KIND, with measured responses to ripostes. You sort of allude to that yourself by calling my responses "lame" AND "derivitive" suggesting, albeit unintentionally, that the original source (i.e., your remarks) is equally lame!BTW, speaking of derivative, here's a little more borrowed from RGA. I'll follow suit and ask if you've seen any good American movies recently? Let's see your list of Academy Award winners.
AuPh
Counter punch all you want, but please!!!! make it fresh and original, so I would not need to blush at your every attempt at humor.I tried to explain it to you thousand times (as did Dmitry... as you might recall) that simply taking the opponent's joke, changing a couple of words in it and then throwing it back as a "retort" is something most of us stapped doing in the first grade.
OK, third grade, for the late bloomers.
You apparently do not understand nuance or you'd be less inclined to blithely ignore being hoist with your own petard. I'm pretty sure that others recognize this far better than you or Patrick, but that's just my humble opinion. You might just be shinin' folks on, sitting there waxing your pole as you regroup before vaulting in again. If that's your strategy, forget it, because if you insist, I WILL raise the bar. ;^)C'est la vie!
AuPh
I suggest Patric and Dmitry can settle their differences without your involvement - your using that incident to your advantage is revolting.Fishing in the murky waters? That is sick.
Actually, Victor we had both the same feeling, on the point that did make Dmitry some kind of ..nervous. ( But he already did yesterday I think menace to retreat, or was it today on another matter...
How did you like the AuPh's idea of a small section for the basically "the rest of the world" films?Funny, ain't it? Even funnier that he doesn't even realize his tendencies.
So do I ! Yes and that with his allusion to our sexuality... Wonderful....
Which tendencies.....( to read only with my foregoing ligne...) Hehehe...
But I notice that they seems to have fun at beeing idiots and attack us but ACTUALLY NO ONE OF THEM did post lately on a film!!!!.
Are they just jaleous ignorant?
nt
That's because a couple of REAL idiots, who for the sake of politeness shall remain unnamed, are changing the tone and tenor of this forum. Two squeeky wheels are apparently getting all the grease. You guys should be delighted with yourselves.> > > "Yes, and that with his allusion to our sexuality... Wonderful..." < < <
Hmmmm, no one has brought that up in this thread but you; I wasn't going to go there, but in the court of public opinion I'm pretty sure that any judge would rule that you openned the door to inquiry. ;^)
AuPh
You are trying to control that part of yourself, but it constantly pops through.
Is this some kind of diversionary tactic or are you merely trying to drive more folks away from the Forum?AuPh
He sees two men sharing friendship, and the first thing that comes to his mind is a homophobic joke.Sick.
;^)
Actually, the Dodgers are the OUT team in LA these days.How 'bout them Angels?
Chris
Just between you and I, if we could just get these fine gentlemen to throw their pitches over our Home plate instead of low and Outside, this place just might get back to normal! I've done my bit with the silent film post above; we'll see.AuPh
I see nothing but good times ahead for us 'non-subtitlers,' so strap on your happy caps and get ready.Chris
If enough people find your posts a distraction, perhaps we can have a real forum "revolt" and get this board separated into Domestic Film Pathways and Euro-trash Alley. ;^)Seriously, a small European film adjunct might help tone down the anti-Hollywood vitriol a bit and encourage discussion. In all candor, I think that doctrinaire comments like those contributed by you, Patrick and occasionally Clark may actually dissuade folks from posting their less rigid opinions or sharing information.
AuPh
And what would be my doctrine, exactly?clark
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..."picking each other's noses in public". [Sigh] That's what one calls, terminally un funny.And all because I dissed LotR, doubtless.
But let me like a coupla' Russki movies, and have a favorite critic who is neither Ebert nor Siskel, and it's "certain highfalutin Euro-mustard calibre reviewers." Un funny and just plain weird.
Let it be noted too, that you and I often disagree, and that I highly enjoyed Pirates-otC and Open Range, for instance, but to the likes of our stodgy friend I remain "doctrinaire".
Nope. Like music, movies move me or they don't. Some people can't acccept that, just as they can't let great music enter their sad little lives.
clark
Someone recently told him about his lack of sense of humor - we had to call the slop brigade to clean floors of his tears.What he lacks in the humor arena he tries to compensate for with venom. So he stopped being fun long ago, but he just can't take the rejection.
c
Who knows, it might even expand his horizons.
;^)
And fun to read. Clark: Open Range....the movie I thought I would hate but enjoyed in spite of myself...and Costner.
x
Eggs Ackley is better suited to Mr. J's inner-moppet; besides, only Neocons wear bow-ties these days! ;^)
a
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Got'cha! :o)
Whether Clark's sense is common, pure come-on, or the product of uncommonly good sensimelia, it doesn't elevate the level of his contributions when he decides to stir the pot and provoke controversy. By that I'm NOT saying that a little controversy is a bad thing, but doctrinaire implies an agenda of sorts (i.e., which some folks seem to be more inclined towards than others); Clark's is fairly obvious.For one thing certain highfalutin Euro-mustard calibre reviewers like Duncan Shepherd apparently have him by the intellectual short and curlies (17300, 17387, 18065, 18282, and so on); for another, he employs double standards with aplomb. Those who counter this by citing a mainstream opinion from any of a number of well respected reviewers or review websites like Rotten Tomotoes get dissed for daring to post that opinon (19604)! Note: Never mind that Clark's cited opinion may very well be of a film he hasn't even seen while the infidel who dares to differ may be providing corroboration for an informed first-hand opinion.
Another interesting albeit peculiar aspect of Clark's complex nature is that his own reviews are spotty and not particularly well written; he prefers instead to cut'n paste obscure review(s) from among those critics who reinforce his own preconceived notions about movies he may or may not have seen (19583, 20065). Of course, the examples I've provided are merely a random sampling of Clark's posts grabbed by our friendly neighborhood search engine over the past 6 months; I didn't select the ugliest or the nicest, just those which easily demonstrate the points I wanted to make.
BTW, Victor, I'm sure that you'll generate one of your "charmingly sophisticated" personal insults for my benefit which Clark and Patrick will find knee-slappingly funny, but from what I've been seeing around here recently, if I may be indulged a Broadway Production analogy by way of Mel Brooks, your posts hit or miss percentage has been more "Springtime for Hitler" than "Cats".
Regards,
AuPh
We donīt like denunciation like you do.
You keep mentioning some mysterious anti-Hollywood thingy just like the Soviet apparatchiks used to mention the anti-Soviet one.The very mention of the word was enough to send shivers down one's spine.
Perhaps this is your politicla bis speaking, I don't know, but the inability to accept opposite opinions is not something a grow man should be proud of.
A "small European film adjunct"? Please don't show your Texas-sentric attitude. The world is about 20 trime bigger than the US, so perhaps a small American film adjunct would be more appropriate?
You might want to run some numbers before making such a stupid suggestion.
You must be jocking! It has nothing to do with Edna, It was a joke.
Try to free yourself.
> > > "Try to free yourself." < < <You and Victor may be into the bondage scene, but puhleeeez, leave me out of it! ;^)
As you can see by the example above, you'll always know when I'm joking around [:o)] and/or being sarcastic [;^)] because I usually use smileys to avoid confusion; now, try to keep on topic, okay?
AuPh
How is Patrick's stating his dislike for LOTR different from your own twenty or more dumps on things like Solaris?Or have you suddenly reconsidered your ways?
... unless of course that passes for cleverness in Euro-centric snobbery these days. Insulting a film in fecal terminology takes criticism to a personal level. There's also the factor of you and Patrick having made a point of jumping in every time anyone mentions Lord of the Rings favorably with your two rubles or francs worth of coprolitic comments. Apparently this is already driving folks like Dmitry out of this forum. Before too long this will be your's and Patrick's private film forum because no one else will be left!!!Get a clue man, you guys are a BIG part of the problem here.
AuPh
Now you are hiding behind one word... how small!Listen, if you can't stand criticism of your favorite film - then perhaps you should stay home. As I said, many films I love got slammed here, but you are the only one with tantrum over such events.
And even more insulting is the fact that you like to dish out, but hate to receive it back.
For someone not too shy in his insults your sudden sensitivity to kaka is so ridiculous it is even too much for you.
> > > "...many films I love got slammed here, ..." < < <Look, I have no problem with film criticism, as long as it has some justification and the critic doesn't rely solely on bodily functions or secretions as a rationale for disparaging the target of his angst. This has been your's and Patrick's major failing as armchair sages trying to influence taste and discourse around here.
> > > "...but you are the only one with a tantrum over such events." < < <
When you can come back to me with evidence that my criticism of, for instance, either version of Solaris being a snoozer somehow equates to calling the most popular and successful series of films of all time "kaka", "crap", "sh*t" then maybe you'll have a point; otherwise you're grasping at straws.
> > > "For someone not too shy in his insults your sudden sensitivity to kaka is so ridiculous it is even too much for you." < < <
It isn't the "kaka" by itself, but rather the cumulative odor from it's overuse that I'm sensitive too; you two guys must LIVE on curry! ;^)
AuPh
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You are just hiding behind others...Just the kind of guy who would be a part of the mob for a good lynch, is it not?
You are right YOU are a small problem...Here.
You know Victor I meant it as a gesture of appeasement, to give us ALL the time for reflexion.
It should have be funny....
(nt)
nt
I saw nothing funny in your response; if I'm in error I'll gladly admit it, but I highly suspect that I am not.AuPh
It must be.
Ok, as I said yesterday I want to speak about film.
I suggest that YOU start a new thread with a film of you choice, and let discuss it.
How about that?
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