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In Reply to: Knowing what I know about edta...he is a big boy and can take it. (nt posted by dennzio on March 18, 2004 at 17:37:21:
Patrick's "kaka" post has an intimidation element that's easily overlooked. If I were new to this forum or a regular who found such incivility not conducive to sharing opinions, I might be hesitant to post here at all; in fact I'd probably just leave as some are apparently doing now.IMHO, that's why this forum is looking more and more like the private message board for personal communications between Victor, Patrick and a few others. That's one reason why splitting the forum into separate Domestic and European ...or Hollywood and Foreign ...or Heinz Spicy and French's Grey Poupon ...or Mainstreet Filmways and Art-House Alley might not be such a bad idea. :o)
Food for thought.
Follow Ups:
Agree on the private message board comment. Disagree on the need to split the board. If everyone just stuck to movies and related subjects we'd all be a lot better off.
...when folks call other folk's personal tastes "kaka" because they don't like the success of a particular film it has a chilling effect on discussion. I'm neither prejudiced against foreign films nor against European inmates expressing their heartfelt opinions, but language can either be a barrier to communication or a tool dependent upon it's use. In retrospect, I'm pretty sure that Patrick regrets posting what he thought was a joke, but as far as I can tell no simple apology has been forthcoming, just a basic "Oooops! Did I miss my mark?" type of response. What's worse is the support (i.e., reinforcement) for this sort of bad behavior from Victor.Perhaps splitting the board is too much to ask, but I'd like to see less rancor and more discussion of relevent points from the art-house crowd about films many folks find impressive.
For the whiners, liars and personal insulters.Some fit more than one category.
Yesterday they clogged this forum so badly you could not find a movie-related post here.
Looks like some of them are back today.
Perhaps the Bored can even install a Babelfish translator for the subtle language nuances (i.e., complete with a little flashing Jerry Lewis icon when a joke is indicated) and a special oxygen mask accessory for Euro-mustard artsy-fartsy hyperbole; the only question remaining is whether the Asylum can afford all this and the shovels required to remove all the "kaka" you've already deposited over here! ;^)
Dmitry told you that rather clearly - not in a subtle polite way I usually do, so you might heed that warning.You go to the whiners road...
No, it is YOUOUOU who go there!
I told you I haven't seen anyone respond like that since I left the kindergarten... until I saw your posts.
Get a humor teacher.
BTW, as I've clearly stated numerous times before, ad nauseum, I tend to be a counter-puncher when verbally attacked; I respond IN-KIND, with measured responses to ripostes. You sort of allude to that yourself by calling my responses "lame" AND "derivitive" suggesting, albeit unintentionally, that the original source (i.e., your remarks) is equally lame!BTW, speaking of derivative, here's a little more borrowed from RGA. I'll follow suit and ask if you've seen any good American movies recently? Let's see your list of Academy Award winners.
Counter punch all you want, but please!!!! make it fresh and original, so I would not need to blush at your every attempt at humor.I tried to explain it to you thousand times (as did Dmitry... as you might recall) that simply taking the opponent's joke, changing a couple of words in it and then throwing it back as a "retort" is something most of us stapped doing in the first grade.
OK, third grade, for the late bloomers.
You apparently do not understand nuance or you'd be less inclined to blithely ignore being hoist with your own petard. I'm pretty sure that others recognize this far better than you or Patrick, but that's just my humble opinion. You might just be shinin' folks on, sitting there waxing your pole as you regroup before vaulting in again. If that's your strategy, forget it, because if you insist, I WILL raise the bar. ;^)C'est la vie!
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