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In Reply to: Where's your own list? posted by Chris Garrett on March 20, 2004 at 21:51:37:

I can't make a list. I'm not really into movies anymore, and I usually can't remember a movie unless someone reminds me -- for instance, when someone mentiones Peter Greenaway or David Cronenberg or Starship Troopers or Saving Private Ryan. The last one has really gotten me into trouble. I've learned the hard way not to point out that Saving Private Ryan glorifies war, because doing so will offend people on a very personal level. If there's anyone like that reading this message, I apologize in advance.
I didn't read this forum until recently, so I'm not sure I understand the point of this exercise. Is someone trying to categorically debunk American filmmaking in the 1990s? If so, I would hope everyone realizes that's a ridiculous non-starter.

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Quit dissembling and be a man: post your films. nt - tinear 05:30:00 03/21/04 (12)
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- He Can't do that and neither can Victor... - RGA 11:17:15 03/21/04 (11)
  Because then they would have to open themselves up to pot shots.
  You see they know that most people haven't seen their artsy fartsy fluff about mind numbingly boring oversimplified stupidity like 81/2 so they can feel free to post. There are about 600 American films better than that dreadful waste of film reel. The new Dawn of the Dead for a start.
  Now I called for American film because I know more people have seen them - so they would probably post some piece of junk like Crash as being one of the best or Eyes Wide Shut another dreadful POS.
  - Re: He Can't do that and neither can Victor... - ephemere 11:50:25 03/21/04 (1)
    I really meant what I said. I have a hard time remembering the films I like. I couldn't care less about pot shots.
    This morning I did remember an excellent 1990s high-budget Hollywood blockbuster-type film -- The Thin Red Line . I don't think anybody has mentioned it, but it's the best 1990s high-budget Hollywood blockbuster-type film I know by a longshot. It's also easy fodder for pot-shots, so shoot away and see if I care.
    - Hey, I'd believe anything from a "Roger Corman is god" guy. nt - tinear 16:37:02 03/21/04 (0)
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  - I don't need to, pal! - Victor Khomenko 11:49:52 03/21/04 (7)
    Run a search on my name, you will probably find me cover 200+ films per year (maybe more)... so there's you list.
    Tell ya what - take any one of them, and do your pot shots.
    - Heaven - RGA 19:47:47 03/21/04 (5)
      I asked for ten - they don't have to be the best ten you've seen just ten.
      If someone asks me to list any ten films in my top 100 I could do that off the cuff.
      Not that any of it really matters -it's not really about the films it's about your lack of argument for condemning films and attacking people for liking what you don't. Instead of spending time on this forum I highly recommend you go to rottentomatoes.com and sign up for their forums. You want to argue - you'll get more there...and you'll even find lots of people who like 81/2. This place gets 1/100 the traffic they do.
      - Life is always simple at 15 - Victor Khomenko 05:52:53 03/22/04 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Heaven posted by RGA on March 21, 2004 at 19:47:47:
        
        ***If someone asks me to list any ten films in my top 100 I could do that off the cuff.
        I too could do that when I was 20. Today I know whole lot more, and things are much more complicated.
        Off the cuff, you say? Sure sounds that way.
        Which one of the Fellini's 25 films would I include in my list of 100?
        You so far know only one, so that does make it easy.
        With luck you too will develop in the future and will know more, and with more knowledge will come understanding that often things should not be done "off the cuff".
        Today, after watching all the films that I have, my biggest frustration is that I will never be able to even scratch the surface of what's good out there.
        So enjoy your simple life while you can.
        
        Staggerring EGO - RGA 11:14:55 03/22/04 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Life is always simple at 15 posted by Victor Khomenko on March 22, 2004 at 05:52:53:
        
        You do not know film because you've seen more, you do not know good literature because you've read more. Quality in the analysis over quantity of watching. Attempting to fish for my age I find odd. Unless you think maturity and age are correlational...I doubt you're this stupid though so I'm assuming you're just curious.
        How bout we go to Roger Ebert(he's in his 60s). A Pulitzer Prize writer, a man who a has seen more than you no doubt. He has seen probably 30+ movies for every one that I have seen. He has probably seen 30,000+ films.
        The difference is most movies critics see I don't need to see. I don't need to see this week's cop buddy movie...I scroll through what critics say are the best ones and I try and make time to watch them. But after 10 years in accounting I left to go back to school and don't have time to see as many anymore.
        Now if you actually thought about it I have probably 20-40 films in my top 100 that EBERT has in his top 100. Even though he has seen way more movies. He has weeded out the rubbish. I don't deny most are crap...but many are very good.
        You look at his list from "The" film art critic. There is a reason he voices the alternate tracks on some major films like Kane among others.
        http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/ (Open in New Window)
        
        You are foolish to think it had to do with age - Victor Khomenko 11:46:45 03/22/04 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Staggerring EGO posted by RGA on March 22, 2004 at 11:14:55:
        
        I think you simply needed something to complain about, as otherwise you didn't have much leg to stand on.
        Let me make it brief - I am swamped with work today. It had everything to do with maturity.
        When someone who only has seen one film by Fellini starts making broad sweeping statements about that master, I say there is need for some maturity.
        Whether at 15, 35, or 65.
        
        When someone sees 10 mins of - wik 11:31:30 03/24/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: You are foolish to think it had to do with age posted by Victor Khomenko on March 22, 2004 at 11:46:45:
        
        Lord of the Rings and makes broad sweeping statements about its quality there is a need for some maturity.
        
        Re: You are foolish to think it had to do with age - RGA 22:28:02 03/22/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: You are foolish to think it had to do with age posted by Victor Khomenko on March 22, 2004 at 11:46:45:
        
        I commented onhis direction of one film - his most acclaimed film...If that is his best then I don't know if I'm masochistic enough to want to watch 24 other *1/2/***** movies. For that I can watch Friday the 13th remakes.
    - On the other hand... - Victor Khomenko 12:05:28 03/21/04 (0)
      Maybe I will take time and compile such a list. Not because some have been asking about it, but because I am curious myself.
      It might take some time however, so in the meantime - do a search.
  - I know you don't approve of my taste, but... - clarkjohnsen 11:31:17 03/21/04 (0)
    ..."mind numbingly boring oversimplified stupidity like 81/2" is pretty close to my position.
    clark

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