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In Reply to: My nomination for the best ever male performance in film: Anthony Quinn in La Strada posted by Victor Khomenko on March 28, 2004 at 06:10:55:
Tony Quinn is an amateur next to BW in that flick.
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I like BW - for an "after dinner movie". But he is not an actor.
Go and watch Die Hard I and tell me that isn't a performance for the ages?Maybe if he changed his name to Pierre Wolanda, you'd be more impressed?
Dear Chris,
There are quite few American actors that I like a lot, BW is not one of them. Simple as that. I've seen DH more than once, it is a decent action, but no actor's movie.
And by the way - there are more British actors that I like then French ones.
Regards,
Alex.
Ok, so my original question still stands.To you, what defines a good actor?
What are the qualities that your favorite actors/actresses possess?
Is it mostly a matter of the 'script', or can a good actor transcend a crappy piece of writing?
Good actor in my book is someone who can play very different roles and be very believable while at it. If you think about it, BW had only one role in his life, never seriously attempting to play anything else. And when he did - he failed. Big time.
Another thing that is very important to me is that an actor be picky, choosing interesting roles over potential commercial success. This is why I would never even think about calling Tom Cruise an actor, or any of his wives for that matter.
On the other hand, look at Ms. Winslet. After "Titanic" she had tons of offers, that she discarded only to take part in something that was INTERESTING for her.
Hey, lest you think that I'm 100% a BW fan, I'm not.He started on TV in a comedic role for Blue Moon and was more than adequate. He moved into action flicks and the example of DH, which I cited, showed that he could tip-toe with (somewhat) precision through more 'smart allacky' comedy and a gruff seriousness in one vehicle. While I'll agree that his roles can be similar, all you need to do is watch LAST MAN STANDING, THE SIXTH SENSE and THE WHOLE NINE YARDS to see that he's not a one trick pony.
I guess since he's really never been in any 'serious' movie, he get's lumped in there with the pure action stars and overlooked?
Anyhow, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
"I guess since he's really never been in any 'serious' movie, he get's lumped in there with the pure action stars and overlooked?"
This is exactly what I am talking about. We are not talking about slave labor here, if he WANTED to be in a "serious" movie, he had the possibility to do it for what, 25 years now?
I could have worked for a start-up making big bucks, but instead I chose to work for medical research. Jedem das seine.
Unapproached performance.Staggering film.
Or, if we're restricted to Euro-auteurs, a powerful case could be made for Gérard Depardieu in MY FATHER THE HERO.
Seriously now, Brando eats Quinn for breakfast (before his mid-morning snack).
I think he's been about some vague, titilating promise that never materialized.Many cite his performance in Apocalipse Now... well, the film was extremely weak, horrible and boring white elephant, except for a bried Duval's performance, and Brando there was basically a tremendous non-actor, with his wispers and nothing more. Truth is, he was shot that way because he acted so ridiculously the director just couldn't show more of him.
He did make a couple of interesting films. The Chase was easily his most American role, and the Godfather is something to remember too. But I never felt touched by the Waterfront.
Last Tango in Paris, man.
because of his weight, not his acting. And many, including yours truly, consider the film a true masterpiece.
Apocalypse Now is close to masterpiece territory except for Brando's scenes. You can see that Copolla ran out of script for closing the story and counted on Brando to improvise something. Brando showed up 100 pounds heavier than anyone thought he would and the Phillipine climate taxed him badly. Coppola was hoping for magic to happen that never did. Ass dragging, Brando phoned it in.The movie is excellent up 'til then. A classic war film, maybe the best ever made.
The documentary about the making of AN is really good. The creation of that movie was a nightmare and lots of that angst shows up on the screen to good effect.
I prefer the longer cut released a couple of years ago. Though 53 minutes longer, it actually tightens up the narrative flow.And yes, "Hearts of Darkness" by Coppola's wife is an extraordinary documentary film. Given all that happened, it is amazing that A/N got made at all, much less turning out to be a masterpiece.
I didn't suggest his acting as in "acting" - the behavior more like it. Weight, yes, and I thought there was also alcohol problem - no? I recall there was a conflict, hence the behavior statement.It is OK that some consider it great, such disagreements are the norm in many cases.
Too bad I fell the same...MB is ( was ) a good school actor, but he never could fully convince me.
Recall hearing on the last few films he made that he would take off his pants to the director would have to exclude his belly.
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