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In Reply to: Re: Kubrick & Napoleon....... / You bet! nt posted by patrickU on April 11, 2004 at 05:13:53:
Reading the article made me really sorry he didn't make the Napoleon... heck, I probably have nearly as many books on him as Kubrick did... not indexed, unfortunately. Every time I go to Russia I bring some - they are far more common and better there than here. I wish Kubrick did it instead of that Eyes Wide Shut fiasco.What is the problem with Napoleon? Great directors tease us but fail to deliver - Gance didn't... Kubrick didn't... if it keeps going like this we will end up with a Napoleon made by Steve Soderbergh with George Clooney in the title role.
Did you see the Clooney's Solaris? It is getting to the point where I just might rent it. I know you were not exactly thrilled about the Tarkovsky work, and I urge you to try it again - as I mentioned, I can watch it as many times as I can get.
Napoleon... the more I think about it the more I long for a truly deep and detailed work - a'la Gance's original idea.
Is there a market for such film? Well, I would certainly buy more than one ticket!
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Yes, " Eyes Wide Shut " was a very bizarre film lefting me uneasy, unclean & unshave...In a way. It has a feeling of the " Story of O " ( Did you read the book ) but without the soul and the real lust.
Clooney´s Solaris...I love too inflige me pain...From time to time...But to go so far as that....You know I will!
Oh! He ( Buonaparte ) will have his come back...Sooner or latter ( the lattest was the French tv film I bought on DVD...As you are a bad friend, I would be so happy to send it to you....) After " Gladiator " ..".Achille "...Let the time machine do its work...Imagine his Army full of digital artifacts like LOTR....
There was a few years ago, this film of Beethoven and his relationship with him, the film was no good, but the atmosphere was catchy...And it look like it could have been so.
The only reference will stay of course, Gance´s masterpiece of this geius composer.
Hear the " Pastorale " and you may have find God, down the streets where you live.
Watching Clooney will probably be a masochistic exercise, but I think I am feeling strong enough to tackle it. I didn't read the Story of O... sorry...I haven't seen the Gance's Beethoven, it is available on a DVD - is it worth of getting? I can get a used one for $20, it seems.
Which other Gance's works you consider noteworthy? It maybe that Napoleon is his only work I know. It is nearly impossible to find him here, I checked his filography and found only J'accuse! available in the US, besides the Beethoven. Was it good?
It will be your loss...But if you feel strong...
Lucrèce Borgia
Beethoven
A must...................!
I know of " La Tour de Nesle " saw it as a kid ( was very shocking at the time because of its erotism.)
" J´Accuse " was filmed twice I just saw. But I can´t remmenber seing it. At school in France we had every now and then a film to look at. It was the best I can remember of this unprecious time....
Just ordered the Beethoven, J'Accuse and... Story of O. The book was just $4.73... he-he... then went back and added Borgia - how could I pass on a name like that?
Story of Ô...was the kind of book we passed under the table at school, with time it shows some....stains...How should I say..from hand to hand..It was the most erotical book. and never did ( I tried..) I found something in this magnitude...How it now stands? Anayway it is the most famous French book in his own right.
For the films you won´t regret it and they have a right to be in your video collection.
Let me know about " J´Accuse ".
Thank you.
We didn't have access to books like that back then... so we had to open my friend father's bookcase and "borrow" his "Suxual Frigidity in Women"... an early 20th century scientific treatise. So don't talk to me of no stains! It will be interesting to give the book a try now, to see how it would hold against things like MTV and some movies in our modern times. I recently looked again at Justine, and it was like watching a PG-rated film.
How was " Justine " beside your rating? You mean the Cukor one, do you?
No, the de Sade's book.
nt
Well, someone left it on the bathroom floor next to the Star magazine... so I picked it up... just to refresh my memory... honest!
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