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In Reply to: Re: You know, its kind of fun...... posted by Ran on April 20, 2000 at 10:04:57:

Absolutely no offense taken :-)
I agree, I dont really belive it is todays audience he is catering to. I think its more a shift in focus to kids and it deos seem he hits that mark quite well. My friends with children who went to Phantom Menace have told me of their offspring's rapt attention and post movie interest. Its just that his original pictures had the same effect on adults - but judging by my response and many of my friends that doesnt seem to be true any longer.
But I know what you mean about seperating things from their original context. Things we saw earlier in life often do become entwined with our long term tastes in interesting ways. There are movies I recall from my childhood that hit me at a level far beyond their value and content that make them special to this day (the original Bond flicks with Sean Connery for example). And while I'm sure I'd still like them if I was seeing them for the first time now, I'm equally sure they wouldnt resonate in quite the way they do when I see them again in the context of my past experience...
Cheers!
joe

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funny you should say that ...... Mart 00:39:14 04/21/00 (5)
The thing that absolutely floored me at the time was the openning scene in Star Wars. The perspective was so tremendous as the Empire ship just kept growing ... WOW!!! But, to see it now I only get a residual twang from remembering the original WOW.
As far as a kiggy show is concerned, di we forget this is a Sci-Fi fairy tail with evil kings & wizards & an underdog hero?
My problem isn't with the doo-tads & other gimmicks or whatever that prejudicial BS was about, but where was the drama? Even during the pod racing scene (a computer generated Ben Hur chariot recreation), there was no anticipation, no fear, no concern, nada. I kept saying "yeah, they spent a great deal of money here ... next". I guess it would've helped if I gave a damn about the characters. Nobody bothered to develope them into anything beyond the thickness of the celluloid.
What was he thinking? Doesn't he have a set of people who're gifted enough not to be brown-nosers? Somebody should've screamed something!!!
- Re: funny you should say that ...... Joe S 08:45:12 04/21/00 (4)
  I think all of that comes from catering to a less critical audience of children. Yes indeed no drama, and the acting of the lead was so wooden and unconvincing as to be offensive - but those are things young kids apparently arent too critical of.
  Yes the original SW flicks required a suspension of disbelief and were hardly profound - but they did have drama, action, beleivable characters and acceptable acting. Of course a big element was the pace which kept things moving along in a convincing manner so that you didnt think to hard as it all flew by.
  But the latest movie was such a directorial cop out. You're right about the lack of caharcters, but even more irritaing at times was the script which simply failed to make its points in any credible way. A character says he senses menace in the young acting challenged munchkin and yet nothing in the kids behavior or in the flow of the movie itself illustrates it? Thats just lazy directing and insulting to the audience.
  The problem is that the fuzzies and toys are the drivers. He's realized he can make crap movies which target kids with underdevloped characters and lame scripts and make his money in the toy store rather than simply at the box office. Hence, instead of focusing on crafting the best movie he can he makes the best child targeted toy commercial instead.
  And unfortunately he's making a killing at it with all the promo ties ins, so I really doubt we'll ever see a legimate movie from Lucas again...
  This is the crux of my objection to the fuzzies and figures.
  joe
  - symptom v. disease late 09:29:27 04/21/00 (3)
    hi,
    Lucas, is rich, no, i mean really rich. His accountants need training in relativistic physics just to describe roughly how rich he is. He is also a control freak, with a real problem of delegating.
    Can you say Peter Principle?
    - So I guess that means... Joe S 15:30:06 04/21/00 (2)
      ...In space, no one can tell you you're wrong.
      joe
      - or ... Mart 19:05:16 04/21/00 (1)
        
        In Reply to: So I guess that means... posted by Joe S on April 21, 2000 at 15:30:06:
        
        "nothing so vacuous as deep space"
        ...or, again, in his case, he's so dense ...
        "even enlightenment can't leave"
        
        Re: or ... Ran 11:22:39 04/22/00 (0)
        
        In Reply to: or ... posted by Mart on April 21, 2000 at 19:05:16:
        
        You said --
        "even enlightenment can't leave"
        Well said Sort of like a
        Black Hole huh?

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