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In Reply to: Re: Are you joking? posted by patrickU on May 19, 2004 at 10:14:44:
"Was I un-reasonable?"I was referring to the thread as a whole.
It is reasonable to prefer one movie to another, or one artist to another. In this case, most people (experts and moviegoers alike) disagree with your dismissal of modern animated films, but it is a subjective judgment.
It is unreasonable to conclude that computers are harmful to the art. At this point in the thread, I think we have established this.
Follow Ups:
No dismissal! I just said that the hand crafted ( what I do undertsand under this words..) have more of my liking. Toy Story as an example, was a nice try. But the Disney are in another league, for me and quite a few others. I suppose.
Computers are a tool. As long it do not take the humanity of the finish product, or art. It is ok for me.
"I just said that the hand crafted ( what I do undertsand under this words..) have more of my liking."I bet you and Victor would be surprised to find out that computer animation is just as hand-crafted as cel animation. Clearly the message is not getting across -- but perhaps you will have the opportunity to see for yourself someday. The manual labor that goes into modern animated movies is staggering, almost impossible to understand if you haven't seen it yourself. Talk about the magic of not knowing how it's made!
It came across, but mine did, obviously not! I said that the artists back then were maybe better at theirs work than the one we have today. That and some others things, like less marketing and more faith.
"I said that the artists back then were maybe better at theirs work than the one we have today."That isn't what you said but if you want to say it now then I'd say you are finally on the right track. Nothing wrong with prefering one artist over another for personal reasons.
"That and some others things, like less marketing and more faith."I'd leave faith to religion. Art is not a faith based endevour. Can't stop people from marketing in a capitalist society. It would be nice if the suits would try maketing he visions of film makers instead of doing test screanings and revising the work based on the opinions of teenagers.
I said it. And mean it. And there is no " track for me " I am " freewheeling ".
Faith? Only religion??? Well think twice.
For the last: is THIS not evident ?
"I said it. And mean it."Sorry, you didn't say it before that post.
"And there is no ' track for me '"
That may very well be true. You may very well be just lost and wandering with the occassional post that randomly hits. This is nothing to be proud of though. Not IMO.
" I am ' freewheeling '."
See above.
"Faith? Only religion??? Well think twice.
For the last: is THIS not evident ? "I'm not sure what you mean here.I never said "only religion" But for the artist the creation of art is not faith based. Any artist worth his or her salt should tell you that. Of course some artists are prone to creating a sense of mystique around themselves and over time some may start to buy their own bullshit. They are usually has beens by that time though.
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