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Victor Khomenko

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In Reply to: military history IS a hobby of mine! posted by Timbo in Oz on May 27, 2004 at 17:41:20:

The PPsh was great piece, and its round was far better than the 9 milli. Would not bounce off the heavy coat at 300 meters.
Mig 3 was not particularly spectacular, and while it was not hard to outclass the 109, the 190 was a complete winner. I would have to refresh my memory, but I think only the radial-engined Lavochkin La 5 and La 7 could deal with it adequetely. I think Yak 9 was high altitude fighter, not too good at lower ones.
The gun you are describing sounds like the 100mm anti-tank field gun, but I am not really an artillery buff... I will look around though.
Is this the one?
http://www.hobbyterra.com/product.asp?idProduct=585
For a military history buff, there are some interesting Russian war films, but hard to find I think.

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Victor! :-) - Timbo in Oz 19:21:58 05/28/04 (2)
yes, 7.63mmMauser / 7.62mm russian version are powerful rounds. I ahve fired a captured Chicom Tokarev too.
JBTW I did a longish Infantry Centre course "Small arms / coaching / marksmanship", and managed to pass on all counts, even with glasses, but only wore the badge on my sleeve, for a year until I left. (Crowned + crossed LE rifles, over L M R P.) Fired a Dshka, and SG42 (Goryunov?) too, and that 14.5mm thing. MG3(MG42-7.62Nato-Brrrriipp), Browning 0.5 M2HB, M1919/.30, FN/MAG, DPM, RPD, L4(Bren), M60 (! PoS),
The PPsh was, considering the muzzle impulse and cyclic rate, a good bit easier to hold on target, for me, than the similar Thompson - box mag version, let alone the TFO (The Famous Owen!?), which was quite violent IIRC, but *.
We found, that by the 1970's at least, all OoS (;-) Owens, had worn barrels / bolts, and weak return springs *, and did NOT hit hard, even for a 9mmPar. gun.
The F1, based on it WAS good, very stable, and it hit hard. But by then you could have a Colt Commando (short Armalite), which was better all round. Except for cleaning it after use, stupid idiots in USAOO who decided to change to US mil. powder, *&^$%$##@@* !

The 100mm divisional gun - 1943 - was known to me, same gun as in Su100, KV100, JSI and maybe even JSII, and T54/5 - with APDS?. But, it is not the one I'm thinking of.
Imagine a gun sitting a good bit higher in the cradle, with a somewhat shorter but still longish barrel, (it is Russian after all!), trunnioned pretty close to the breech * , AND two cylinders almost vertical on either side of the barrel, well up above it and forward (of the shield?. Possibly spring/hydraulic balancers for the muzzle preponderance * of the barrel, NOT part of the recoil system at all. Recoil probably moves gun AND cradle.
German 15cm WWII howitzer, and Brit 5.5 gun, had similar.
USSR had LOTS of these right up until Berlin, I think?
122mm gun/howitzer? maybe?
RIAA? email me?

Timbo in Oz
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
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- That sounds like the Model 1937 152mm howitzer - Victor Khomenko 07:20:23 05/29/04 (1)
  I remember reading about using these in anti-tank role with devastating results... don't know whether true or not.
  - Pic on bottom left (Open in New Window)
  - yes that's it, what the SU152 mounted, KV1 chassis - Timbo in Oz 15:43:21 05/29/04 (0)
    Known to Ivan the frontovik as "the animal killer".
    It IS actually a Gun/Howitzer, Ie sufficient MV in direct fire role, at low angles, to have good penetration. Variable charges, and able to elevate well above Gun angles for indirect fire. [Many howitzer's have this ability so few are pure howitzers, eg. the D30 122mm, with its cruciform carriage is both.]
    A purer howitzer like the M1943 usually has lower weight and lower range.
    Also that long muzzle brake, on the M1937, is indicative of highish MV, one of the few WW11 mediums to have a MB! The Yank 155mm H didn't, nor the GUN (the long-tom), neither of the British mediums did, some later German ones did, but few of them were made, in most cases.
    Mediums do often have enough thump to put a heavy shot or AP shell straight through armour. OTOH Mediums can damage or take out tanks from above with air bursts (splinters downwards at HE speed) if time fused. Or, even a direct hit right on top with HE, as this was a particularly accurate medium gun, it's fire coulda been 'walked in', NB all tanks are tin cans on top.
    Fire from a medium battery was always a reliable way to slow or stop massed tanks.
    I have bookmarked it.
    The NVA 122mm I was referring to is the M1938, a good 2000 metres more range than the 105/M2.
    careful with the swords mate.
    
    Timbo in Oz
    The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
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