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In Reply to: Persona, subtitles and dubbing posted by Bambi B on June 28, 2004 at 20:22:23:
What did you get?Sounds like we both come from the "I hate American dubbing" school, and as I said, this was my first positive experience. I want to find out who dubbed Alma, as the actress did good job. Truly.
The Hunt for Red October... well, it was laughing all along hearing Sean do Russian. He opened up with the phrase that could only be written buy a Berkeley born Hollywood scriprwrite, who stumbled upon the Russian dictionary and thought just linking a couple of words would mean he spoke Russian. That sentence: "Holodryga... i surovo!" makes no sense at all, but hey, it worked!
It's been easily fifteen years since I saw the Wild Strawberries, so it is now on the short list.
So - what time it is?
Follow Ups:
Victor,I almost always hate dubbing. Once I notice a movie is dubbed it's all over as I become preoccupied with the fact the characters' mouths are movng out of synchronisiation with the dialogue. Often too, a dubbed voice doesn't correspond with the appearance of the character and the vocal expression doesn't match. The incongruities between the visual and audible are just too jarring.
"Red October": I've thought to start a thread here for awhile on submarine movies as I'm amazed how often they appear. This is a genre that I've noticed has been used consistently for decades and seems to be especially revealing of the period- from the gung ho WWII- "run Silent Run Deep" to the cat and mouse world of undersea warfare "Crimson Tide" to science fiction "20,000 Leagues", "Abyss", "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea". "K-19" and U571"- the list goes on and on. "Das Boot" is a speically interesting movie as it spent more time humanizing the U-Boat experience than most movied that concentrate on war action.
There is something intense about the isolation of a submarine and of course the environment is dangerous like that of outer space. Also, like aircraft dogfighting the logistical side is 3 dimensional.
"Red October" had a good story idea and was on the verge of being actually a very good movie, but had to be made popular and palatable with name brand stars, but there was so much that was goofy and the casting was a main mistake. The main plot hole was of course, why the Connery character wrote in advance to the apparatchik uncle that he was defecting! No one, no one would have that stupid to give the Soviet Navy 4 or 5 days to catch him. The explanation that the letter would force full commitment is just not plausible as Connery could have piloted the boat to the US- as was their order anyway. Of course, then the story would have been without tension.
As for Connery doing Russian, I couldn't understand absolutely one word he said! The mixture of actors and accents on the Red October just made my head spin and was very distracting. Still, it was this close to being a really good one- pity.
The time: After fussing about for so long I decided the Lacroix was beautiful but a bit too "antique" looking- a bit too elaborate and textured. I have a problem with watches in that the ones that look wonderful in the case or photos as designs don't always look right on the wrist. I end up liking the more plain designs more. So, the nice chap at the corner drug store let me try for a day a very lightly used (1 year old) Vacheron power reserve and this turned out to be the perfect thing. I looked for a photo to make a link to, but I can't find one that has this exact dial which has all numbers instead of the hours and markers combination that seem to be the typical one. The closest I can come is:
http://www.prestigetime.com/item.php?item_id=2854
-the photo of which does not do this one justice.
This was much more expensive than I'd planned, but as I've thought to eventually sell my old Daytona, it's works out about even and the Vacheron just glows with quality- a lifetime purchase. The Lacroix is nicely made too, but the Vacheron- like the Lange 1- just jumped onto my wrist. As opposed to the super expensive Lange the VC was too attractive to pass up. By the way, the original owner of this one wore it very little- 4 or 5 times he said and it was kept on an automatic winder. [Do you use these? A sensible idea.] He brought it back to part exchange on the big chronograph that I lusted after from afar earlier but impossibly cost about the same as a new S class Mercedes.
But still even with a good "deal", for the next couple of years, I'm going to need to walk up to people in the street and ask for $2 to tell them the time! "Psst.. Hey buddy! Tell ya da time for two bucks. Hey, come on, what's da matter? Too important to know what time it is? OK.. Hey you!..."
Finally though, the torture of shopping is over!
Cheers,
Bam
I know that model, it is beautiful, so wear and enjoy! It is a bit too small for me, at 36mm, but it is a beauty!I am sure you know folks go crazy over Daytonas, but they leave me cold, but this Vacheron is indeed a keeper, and will most likely become a valuable piece you will pass onto next generation... in another hundred years.
Yes, I keep all my automatics on winders, I have four different winders, three of them with four-positions each. Otherwise the oil might pool on the bottom... so the pro's say.
Anyway, it is time for you to look again!
Best of luck!
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