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In Reply to: Mystic River posted by patrickU on June 28, 2004 at 14:31:34:
I now want to see 21 grams based on the other feedback (esp. tinear). MR was predictable in all aspects except for the identity of the killer. It was very obvious to me that Tim Robbins would get killed among many other glaring predictable spots of the film. Not bad, but definately not great. I especially found the last ten minutes too ".... and here's what happens to all of them later". The end should have been just Penn walking down the street drunk (to me).
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But the entire film is extremely faithful to the book and that scene is in the book. It makes it clear that Bacon knows the truth and that he will eventually nail Penn.
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Actually he walk drunk the road and that was the end. What version did I or did you see?
After his walk down the road there was a parade down their street. Kevin Bacon was with his wife and baby (the whole wife thing I thought also not needed), Sean Penn came out and Kevin did a silent finger and thumb gun at Penn and looked at him saying "yeah, I won't say anything".... bla bla bla, the whole scene I thought rediculous. Maybe this was only on DVD? Did you see it in the theatre?
There were definately parts of the movie that were very good, overall I thought it over-rated however. And it was very predictable as I said before which somewhat ruined it for me.
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The scene was in the book and shows that Bacon is on to Penn and will eventually get him.
That is what I have understand.
Kevin will arreste him and Penn if you do " c´est la vie "
It almost seemed to me that a slightly different effect is intended in the film ending, as compared to the book's. The feeling that I got (because of other elements in the film) was perhaps that Bacon was certainly communicating a certain kind of morbid "knowing", based on a shared experience. Perhaps Bacon had also felt relieved of something... and assured of something else. Bacon knew that Robbins' personality had been so destroyed in childhood that he, in essence, had been little more than the walking dead... the curtain had essentially been pulled down since that day. Perhaps Bacon felt that fate had dealt poor old Robbins a favor of sorts? Or, that the ongoing processes of revenge being displayed throughout were really the best efforts of thwarted souls to win something back again? It's all a little confusing, but a good film, IMO.
w/o reading the book before seeing the movie, Kevin's finger gun seemed pretty cheesy.........
At first I tought too " the whole thing not needed " like you did but even not very good it has an intend, the one to let the message " friendship ".
In fact Kevin says nothing. But sometimes you can hear " nothing "
One more thing, this film had a poetic quality too, not very great but still there.
On DVD.
But in the end we agree even with different reasons...Not a bad film.
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