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In Reply to: Tampopo posted by patrickU on June 30, 2004 at 01:13:30:
...have lower barriers when it comes to capturing the Western... the American heart.We treat them almost like kids, lovable and cute, with soft gloves, and we are much more inclined to love them than say, a new German film.
It is their exotic nature that lets them command such devotion among the movie fans. In addition to their often very high quality.
I think Tampopo indeed plays very well on that effect. It is not a deep movie - you are right, but given our predisposition towards the Asia cinema it makes an easy entry and its strongs or positives become stronger and more positive when viewed through our pro-Asian lense.
I do not see this as something bad, rather just the fact that exists and should be considered.
We had great fun with Tampopo, and you are right - its maker does use the cliche's he knows will work, but this is a rather innocent manipulation.
From my memory I would not be as harsh on it as you seem to be, as our memories are mostly warm and comfortable, and often time is the best sorter and maybe you too till be looking back at it with warm smile after some time is allowed to pass.
Follow Ups:
I know what you mean. But I could see through this, as you called it " exotic nature " and the naivety hide behind, and the complaisance you do may have with Asian films. I have the same bia with...English one.
It is bad as far as you give preference without real due. But who is perfect?
The clichés he use and that is one of my point, are too childish to make me believe in a way, in them. The stiches are too big. ( Can you say that in english? )
Still I had some fun out of it but mostly...How to prepare a good...soup.
Funny too, the erotic love they have for very young girls ( or those who looke like ) and their attached symbolisms.
All in all I was not too bored. But again VERY 80´s!
"The Funeral" was a good example of that.
I meant of course the second echelon films and our acceptance of them. Most commonly that acceptance goes beyond the merint of the work.In Tampopo, for instance, there is that part about loud slurping. To a Japanese this is not of any interest, as he hears those loud sounds around him every day, but to a typical Westerner (checked on several people) this is a lovely and cute episode.
Another such example would be the totally pedestrian Shall We Dansu?, another Japanese film. Taken on its own and measured against the absolute scale that movie would not rise above the silly fluff, but its success here is supportive of my notion. There is something attractive and almost seductive about the Japanese doing tango.
It is...dissembling to use "we" to express a personal opinion. If you want to say you find Japanese film "lovable and cute," do so.
I know of no worhwhile critic who views Kurosawa, Kinugasa, Ichikawa, and other Japanese directors as anything but world-class artists. It is almost embarrrassing to mention it.
(Quite often, on the other hand, I have seen favorable opinions about Russian films which obviously discount the souless nature of the communist and his post-Peter the Great veneer of Western civilization.) (:----> ))
And it shows how difficult it is to correspond, without knowing each other.
nt
your words? I didn't see any qualifications in his first post, which he did by saying second-tier in his second.
"Comedies from foreigners often are humorous as they play off on the stereotypes which foreign audiences have of the work's culture."
There, is that what YOU think Vic meant? (Ici--- c'est tres amusant!).
Non mon vieux Tin, really you should reread Victor post, he just state things we all do!
How can explain to you?
O.K. Like when you go in a foreign country and you are in good mood because it is warm and sunny and you are on holliday, and you some kind fell some sympathy for the autochtones....
Better?
***I didn't see any qualifications in his first post, which he did by saying second-tier in his second.Because you didn't think while you read it. Now - try again, after some coffee... no need to jump out in your long johns on your raw emotions - always think first!
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