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In Reply to: Ditto posted by Victor Khomenko on July 03, 2004 at 17:53:05:
Roles that have marked the story of Cinema. He was a boxer in his early day. From Italian origin he some how represent the lightness of the French spirit...He has a long history of film making. A few years ago a stroke left him with a few sequels, will he ever be able to make another film?
With good directors he was able to deliver a good show, and as you said Victor, not much deepth, and more for the amusement of the common folk as we all sometimes are, but not steadily, at least for some of us.
I never really like him, he is definitively a " B " actor.
He made several films with Delon, and they were very much jealous at each other.
Delon who left Romy Schneider to have an affair with Visconti, but at her death stay all night with her corpse, is the architype of the French male, macho and in reality just a copy carbone of the real thing...James Dean.
Politically now belonging to the far right, but still in an individually way, he do not makes any more movies save some TV. His best films were with Melville, even if I despite " Le Samurai " one of the coldness film I ever saw, it had a certain charm.
And of course his Italian " period " is worth to see...
For me again, one of the best French actor is Pierre Fresnay, but who of you American guys know him?
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The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)
La Grande Illusion (1937)
Le Corbeau (1943)Wow! I thought you might be getting ready to say Tringinant was the best French actor. Pierre Fresnay! What a pleasant surprise to read that name!
Trintignant? I donīt really like him, but he has all my respect.
Fresnay with Raimu and quite a few others are or better said were the best what the French cinema has to offer.
Hitchīs film as only a few seconds with him...BUT Pagnol trilogy ....Ah!
I only listed the Fresnay films I have seen. I have read that his appearance in Pagnol's Marius made Fresnay a star in 1931. I am looking forward to the opportunity to see those films one day! But I loved his performances in "La Grande Illusion" and "Le Corbeau". What is it about his work that moves you beyond intellectual appreciation and/or respect to say that he is your favorite French actor?
Pierre Fresnay was born Laudenbach ( Alsacian ) he started with theater ( Comedie Francaise ) to go later in anger to the film. He was as an actor looking always a little condescent & he was always very polished and you could tell.... freshly soaped. His voice was the perfect match for his attitude. He could play every role, and so he did.
I recommend you the trilogy that you must buy at Amazon.
His wife:http://pageshttp://perso.club-internet.fr/garzanda/artistes1940/pierre_fresnay.htm.ca.inter.net/~abelc/yvonneprintemps.html
The trilogy is a must. Almost as sentimental as the worst Hollywood can bring up, but it explain the very heart and soul of the Provence. And played, boy, played so good. I bet it would make you cry even this films are....old, but not dated.
Not my only one! In fact there are quite a few, like Raimu, Jouvet, Gabin ( can be very good ) and so on....
Sir Alec Guiness loved him, so do I. Even if his position was not so clear in the last war. Sometimes you make an exception. He was the " grand seigneur " of the French Cinema, His presence and his voice were beyond good and bad.
Tomorrow, when my head will be cleare I shall post more on him. Now after too many Champagne ( Soccer end play...) I canīt.Patrick
http://frenchfilms.topcities.com/nf_pfresnay.html
(in the 2 roles you listed) pure testerone and "cool.". He, consciously, "sampled" Bogart, Garfield, and Dean.
Intelligence is NOT the critical criterion in an actor, unless one is speaking of formal stage.
Pacino, De Niro, and Nicholson--do they strike you as particularly "intelligent?"
Belmondo will forever be remembered for several roles, in almost perfect films. It is impossible to think of another Frenchman who could have played these roles with such physical grace, such coolness.
(I remember reading he was also a circus performer in his youth).
You are right actors donīt need to be intelligent, and very few are. Are we intelligent?
I prefer the one who are.
Pure testerone and cool ? No better words would apply. And as I said before most European movies actors at that time were copying deseperately their US counterparts.
Pacino...De Niro ...God I can not stand them. In fact I have panic when I see them. It must be some kind of mental allergy.
As for Belmondo, he is not a good actor, no way. he had the luck to be cast in right ( for him ) roles. And meeting the right directors. But that is the way things happen, for all.
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