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In Reply to: Anyone here with fresh memories of Bergman's "Shame"? posted by Victor Khomenko on July 03, 2004 at 20:42:53:
Now THAT'S a disturbing film!
Bergman, quite often, has a strange impact upon me: immediately afterwards, I don't think the film was that good. Hours later, or the next day, it "explodes" in my mind, like a delayed-fuse bomb.
One of the great delights, of course, is seeing the familiar faces of his ensemble, playing very different roles in each production. The roles, for instance, one would have expected Von Sydow to portray are taken by another.
This movie, btw, must be seen on a theater screen to fully appreciate it, so much of it is visual. My 27" didn't quite do it justice...
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...is on my list of films to revisit shortly - I plan on buying the Criterion Trilogy in a week or so. It was the first film Bergman did with Nykvist.From my memory you are right, it is disturbing, like many of his films, but also much more mainstream Bergman.
The Shame in that sense falls outside his usuall tradition, in my view. In this one he really lets his surrealism, which is most often extremely subtle or used in severe moderation, run lose. The whole film is one long nightmare and it seems to be overdone... but perhaps the fact we viewed it late, after long day, played its role too.
Many of us (if not all) have such nightmares from time to time, and we can identify with them. However, in general I am not a surrealism lover, I think it is flimsy foundation if all and by itself, and should be rather used as a spice.
If you haven't seen this one, definitely get it. Heck, get this whole MGM set - the image quality is simply superb, rivaling Criterion in my estimation, and price is great.
see if I can find "Shame."
I don't know if "Through a Glass Darkly" is mainstream, by anyone's definition, unless it's Lars Von Triers.
I think you'd enjoy "Dogville." I've never read any interviews of LVT, but I'd be surprised if he DIDN"T acknowledge Bergman's influence----it's really quite apparent.
I used the word mainstream carefully, in the context of Bergman, not general, of course.I will keep my eyes open for Dogville.
I started buying films only recently too, but in certain cases there is no way around it.
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