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In Reply to: Forest Gump? posted by Bulkington on July 07, 2004 at 11:50:30:

Orpheus's.
"Black Orpheus" and plain ol' "Orpheus."
Why is it that Brasilian film gets no respect (Ok, it was a French director, but most actors, the location, the music, etc. was Brasilian) (bracing for Pat's attack...)?
No one here ever mentions "O Cangaceiro," even though most world film critics place it very highly.
I might add that "Central Station," is one of the best movies of the past 10 years.

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Oops, forgot to add the classic, "Pixote." nt - tinear 15:35:33 07/07/04 (0)
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Re: Y'all are nuts to forget the two - Victor Khomenko 12:36:56 07/07/04 (11)
Calling the Central Station one of the best movies of the past 10 years is a BIG stretch, I think. It was a warm lovable humane tearjerker, but I would not put it in that prestige category.
- I suppose you laughed your way through "The Bicycle Thief" or - tinear 15:34:36 07/07/04 (3)
  "400 Blows"?
  Actually, the film's ultimate message was one of redemption: the woman sacrificed to help the boy, remember? (Central Station)
  The story, btw, is much happier than the reality. Every day, thousands (maybe 100s of thousands) of homeless kids cover the streets of Sao Paulo and Rio. Kids as young as 4-yrs. old who have been snorting glue for a year, preyed upon by sex tourists and local monsters.
  Yeah, Central Station should have been a knee-slapping comedy of laughs!
  - You on glue? - Victor Khomenko 16:23:47 07/07/04 (2)
    What stupid response... is it in any way related to what I said?
    You sure you didn't confuse lovable with laughable?
    - Tearjerker is a shallow characterization which could be applied to many - tinear 16:51:47 07/07/04 (1)
      films, such as "Wild Strawberries," or..."Schindler's List."
      What does that prove?
      I supplied two films similar in theme to "Central Station." Two films which are considered "classics." "Central Station" is just as powerful an indictment of society as those films. You do understand they were more than just stories about boys, right?
      BTW, do you appreciate any Brasilian films?
      (I'm sure you know many critics have placed 3 or 4 of them on their best ever lists.)
      - Dodging the point, as often - Victor Khomenko 17:10:08 07/07/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Tearjerker is a shallow characterization which could be applied to many posted by tinear on July 07, 2004 at 16:51:47:
        
        You didn't answer the question about where did the stupid line about laughs come from.
        Yes, both of those films are good, but not truly special. Both fail on the sentimental side - not such a big deal, just a fact. When I said humane, I presume it was clear I appreciated them. Just would not consider them among the ten best... no way.
        You seem to be forgetting there are about forty years between them and the Thief. Just like someone painting in Flemish manner would seem dated, so do film makers who fail to push the envelop.
        So - that laughing question... still waiting.
        I do not know about the critic's lists, as I don't read those.
- Re: " Central ..." one of the best... - patrickU 13:04:37 07/07/04 (6)
  Film in the last ten year...The political & social message must make you blind Tin!
  Out of curiousity...What are the nine others....
  - Well, I don't think in "lists" but, at this very moment.. - tinear 15:44:39 07/07/04 (5)
    "City of God," American Beauty," "Run, Lola, Run," "Breaking the Waves," "Fargo," "Pulp Fiction", "The Sweet Hereafter," "Happiness," "Hoop Dreams," "Se7en."
    - Re: Well, I don't think in "lists" but, at this very moment.. - patrickU 00:57:44 07/08/04 (0)
      American Beauty with that " sticky " actor? Terrible film, at first I thought maybe good, but approching the end...hum..and at the second view...I made it only for the first 20 minutes or so.
      I would say that they belong to the best 100 films of the last ten years, but now do not ask me what are the others 90--( hehe )
    - Well, I am quite disappointed - Victor Khomenko 16:47:41 07/07/04 (3)
      No such things as Faithless, Beau Travail and others? Lola has no place next to them, really.
      American Beauty? Wow...
      - Sorry, but I can only see what it is available. - tinear 17:15:50 07/07/04 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Well, I am quite disappointed posted by Victor Khomenko on July 07, 2004 at 16:47:41:
        
        Don't believe I've heard of Faithless or B T. I'm assuming they're "foreign?"
        Well, there is no accounting for taste, but, anyhow, A B was a brilliant contemporary skewering of American society: marriage; work; parental relationships; inter-generational sex; drugs; militarism. It starred two actors---both giving excellent performance---who are our two best mature male actors: Chris Cooper and Kevin Spacey.
        
        Re: Sorry, but I can only see what it is available. - patrickU 00:59:37 07/08/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Sorry, but I can only see what it is available. posted by tinear on July 07, 2004 at 17:15:50:
        
        So it was only the best US films...You should have been more precise....and called them the " ten not so worst "....Hehe...
        
        Available at some rentals - Victor Khomenko 17:25:43 07/07/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Sorry, but I can only see what it is available. posted by tinear on July 07, 2004 at 17:15:50:
        
        One is not foreign to Patrick, the other - to Max Von Sydow. Tricky thing, that "foreign" label.
        Anyway, try to get them, you will not regret.
        You are right about the tastes, but I can't say enough bad things about the Beauty... so I will abstain. Even Kevin wasn't enoyable in it.
Yup! - Auricle 12:29:44 07/07/04 (0)
Actually saw "Black Orpheus" in the cinema. There have to be some advantages to age.

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