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• Not Victor, but - grinagog 00:25:36 07/26/04 (1)
  In Reply to: Question for Victor posted by mishmashmusic on July 24, 2004 at 18:20:01:

  Come and See is the best depiction of the Eastern Front in a film I have yet seen, while not specifically Stalingrad its a Russian production
  This is NOT a film for the faint of heart, be warned(!)
  and Peckinpahs Cross Of Iron; Sam was in the process of making a film about Stalingrad when he died which, had it been made, could well have been his magnum opus, Cross of Iron is more an antiwar film
  I have been trying (unsuccessfully!) to get this one for a while, Mein Kreig, (My War) which is vintage footage taken on the Eastern Front by German soldiers and narrated by the same individuals some 50 years later

  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000541TO/qid=1090826677/sr=8-12/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i12_xgl74/102-9816117-9069753?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

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  • Thanks... nt - mishmashmusic 06:40:11 07/26/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Not Victor, but posted by grinagog on July 26, 2004 at 00:25:36:

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• Not a Russian production, but you could try "Enemy At The Gates". - Dalton 10:21:29 07/25/04 (3)
  In Reply to: Question for Victor posted by mishmashmusic on July 24, 2004 at 18:20:01:

  This came out a few years ago. If I remember correctly, it's a story of a Russian sniper and German sniper hunting each other in Stalingrad - with the obligatory Hollywood love triangle subplot, of course. Which means, Victor will have no trouble finding the correct 4-letter term to describe it...
  
  

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  • Re: Not a Russian production, but you could try "Enemy At The Gates". - mishmashmusic 13:11:22 07/25/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Not a Russian production, but you could try "Enemy At The Gates". posted by Dalton on July 25, 2004 at 10:21:29:

    Saw it, thanks. That was a watered down & abridged version of the William Craig book, combined with the novelization "War Of The Rats".

    The movie "Enemy At The Gates" was not terrible, but it had Hollywood written all over it.
    

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  • Secretly loved, yes... - Victor Khomenko 11:49:55 07/25/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Not a Russian production, but you could try "Enemy At The Gates". posted by Dalton on July 25, 2004 at 10:21:29:

    VERY secretly. It's not a very good film, and the jury is still out on the story it is based on. Zaitsev was a real character, and the German guy too, but their duel...
    

    
    
    
    

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  • VK secretly loved this film because she was in it . . . - albee33 10:36:23 07/25/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Not a Russian production, but you could try "Enemy At The Gates". posted by Dalton on July 25, 2004 at 10:21:29:

    

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• This is hard - Victor Khomenko 20:41:58 07/24/04 (11)
  In Reply to: Question for Victor posted by mishmashmusic on July 24, 2004 at 18:20:01:

  I can't recall many, but there was the Russian film called Stalingrad, but I don't remember it. Probably your best bet would be in finding the movie called Soldaty (Soldiers), based on a very good and popular book by Victor Nekrasov called V Okopakh Slaningrada (In the Trenches of Stalingrad)... but finding it will probably be very difficult.

  There was also a monumental mini-series called Osvobozhdenie (Liberation) and I think there was the episode on Stalingrad, but I am not 100% sure.
  

  
  
  
  

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  • Not too hard... - Alex Yakovlev 10:16:24 07/28/04 (2)
    In Reply to: This is hard posted by Victor Khomenko on July 24, 2004 at 20:41:58:

    For some reason there are none good movies about it. No idea why.
    
    

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    • Did you see the Soldaty? - Victor Khomenko 14:48:25 07/28/04 (1)
      In Reply to: Not too hard... posted by Alex Yakovlev on July 28, 2004 at 10:16:24:

      I am ambivalent about it, as it was made in 1959... well, on one hand it was years of propaganda, on the other - the Khruschev's thaw.

      Remember, it was 1959 when Solzhenitsyn finished his One Day in Life of Ivan Denisovich.

      So it could go either way.
      

      
      
      
      

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      • I did. - Alex Yakovlev 18:45:29 07/28/04 (0)
        In Reply to: Did you see the Soldaty? posted by Victor Khomenko on July 28, 2004 at 14:48:25:

        For some reason it did not strike me as a GOOD movie. Maybe I am wrong.
        
        

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  • Re: This is hard - mishmashmusic 13:14:04 07/25/04 (7)
    In Reply to: This is hard posted by Victor Khomenko on July 24, 2004 at 20:41:58:

    Thanks---I will seek out Soldaty---I don't know why it hadn't occured to me before now to ask about Stalingrad. It seems obvious that the Russians would have committed it to film somewhere down the line...
    

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    • Running completely dry - Victor Khomenko 13:58:51 07/26/04 (5)
      In Reply to: Re: This is hard posted by mishmashmusic on July 25, 2004 at 13:14:04:

      I checked several Russian sources... nada.
      

      
      
      
      

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      • Me too - mishmashmusic 14:20:11 07/26/04 (4)
        In Reply to: Running completely dry posted by Victor Khomenko on July 26, 2004 at 13:58:51:

        I've been doing searches---couldn't find anything for sale. How hard do you think it would be to find in Russia? I have a friend going over soon...
        

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        • Re: Me too - Victor Khomenko 15:04:01 07/26/04 (3)
          In Reply to: Me too posted by mishmashmusic on July 26, 2004 at 14:20:11:

          Hard to tell. The sources I checked are usually very well stocked, and probably reflect what is available in Russia, so the fact the film is not there doesn't give me much hope. I will be there in October and will check it out.

          Do you speak Russian?
          

          
          
          
          

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          • Ochin plokha - mishmashmusic 06:35:55 07/27/04 (2)
            In Reply to: Re: Me too posted by Victor Khomenko on July 26, 2004 at 15:04:01:

            I struggle with it, but I'm trying to learn. I understand a lot more than I can say. And, if I cross my eyes, I can sometimes read it :)
            

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            • LOL! I see... - Victor Khomenko 07:27:55 07/28/04 (1)
              In Reply to: Ochin plokha posted by mishmashmusic on July 27, 2004 at 06:35:55:

              Well then, definitely ask your friend, and I will look too, and if one of us finds it let's share.
              

              
              
              
              

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              • Sure thing nt - mishmashmusic 07:39:14 07/28/04 (0)
                In Reply to: LOL! I see... posted by Victor Khomenko on July 28, 2004 at 07:27:55:

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    • Re: This is hard - Victor Khomenko 05:30:20 07/26/04 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: This is hard posted by mishmashmusic on July 25, 2004 at 13:14:04:

      If you manage to find it, please let me know, as I would love to have it too.

      In the meantime I will search the Russian sources... they would probably have it on a VCD, except of course it would not have the subs.
      

      
      
      
      

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