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In Reply to: Final (?) Star Wars film named: Revenge of the Sith. posted by jusbe on July 25, 2004 at 05:05:18:
It is the same as with Matrix, at first you may have thought " Oh, there may be something behind, but rapidly ...there was just bullshit left behind.
When I think at the last two SW saga, Oh boy!
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during the middle 1960s and 1970s until Star Wars everyone was trying to make the "Great American Film" and, indeed, some of the serious movies of the day were absolutely tremendous. Unfortunately, far more were sophomoric, self-indulgent "serious" merde.I saw "Star Wars" (1977) in Times Square (in 70mm I might add).I was amazed that a New York audience was so thrilled to be simply entertained for a change that they cheered when the Death Star blew up. Even more amazed that they gave the movie a standing ovation at the end. The reaction of the audience was "Oh, my God, I actually enjoyed that!"
Sadly, the pendulum has swung much too far toward mindless entertainment for 12 year olds which "Star Wars" triggered. One would hope for a mixture of serious films, "art" films and entertainment but that is never the way a pendulum works.
That is why I love DVDs and LaserDiscs. Whether I want to be serious, nostaligic, entertained . . . whatever . . . the solution is in my library waiting for the screen to come down and the projector to light up.
The same here. I am just looking at Bergman“s " Seven Seals ", every single image, every single tune, every move, is a complete entity.
That IS film.
Were they trained?
Very funny...Seal.
I thought the first one (Episode IV) was very well done and an homage to the Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon serials of the thirties. Lucas shouls have left things alone at theat point as the sequels and prequels have become parodies of themselves.
Yes the problem was it was...rubbish too....but back then it was fun...DD, the computer...the pseudo philosopy...The second one was darker, and yet it was my prefered.
The last was " Puppet show." ( of the first batch )
From what I have read in the book "Easy Riders", and other interviews over the years, is that Lucas decided during the screenplay-writing stage of "Return of the Jedi" to soften the series and ensure the continuing commercial viability of the characters. Gary Kurtz, producer of the first two "Star Wars" films, was shocked that Lucas would cheapen the "Star Wars" saga just to keep the little ones returning to the theatres over and over again and keep buying the toys and books and etc. etc.... Kurtz never worked with Lucas again, and "Jedi"'s success cynically inspired Lucas to tell everyone that he came into contact with that these were just "kid's movies" (or something like that...my materials are all boxed up in anticipation of a soon-to-be move). I do not think that is a coincidence that Lucas has done nothing since that is worth a damn.The first "Star Wars" may have been trash, but it was fun, playful "trash". The second movie unexpectedly took the story into areas Lucas could not have anticipated when he was working on the screenplay of "Star Wars" in 1973-74. It is a shame that all we have now are the pitifully-reworked versions of "Star Wars" and "Empire Strikes Back" to remind us of the entertainment we once got from Lucas' work.
At the time it was " fun " I remember Sir Alec Guiness " to be absolutely astonished on the success of the first SW, he did the sequels because of the high salary and because Lucas gave him more money as promised for the first one.
But in the end he hates the whole thing and particulary the " fan " post from the USA.
I think Lucas was very lucky. As for me he is not a director but more of a manipulator.
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