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In Reply to: You "agree" to what? Have YOU seen this film or are you STILL blowing smoke? (nt) posted by Audiophilander on July 30, 2004 at 00:36:51:
He agreed that you are boring. And he said that your post is just polemic.
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The POINT I was trying to make, before you so rudely inserted your two deutsh marks, is that Victor again is spouting off about a film that I doubt he has seen. At least you have seen it, even if you failed to appreciate it and felt the need to slice and dice Michael Moore's work of genius while rubbing salt in the wounds of those who DID like the film.
***Victor again is spouting off about a film that I doubt he has seen.Show me where I said anything about the film, you lying scum.
> > > "...you lying scum." < < <Please don't confuse me or my opinions with the residue in your shower; if anything, I'm providing the means of cleaning up your mess. All you have to do is SEE THE MOVIE; then when you post in these threads you'll have "some" credibility.
First, you insulted a decent guy, who knows more about movies than you will in 1000 years... no, make it 1002 years, and has far better taste than you do.That insult was so gratuitous and so unrelated to the subject, it simply showed you as an hateful unstable character.
It seems, every time someone dares to dislike the films you admire you immediately resort to slimy personal insults.
Then you proceeded to make a direct lie about me. When confronted you didn't even see it fir to say "Sorry!", you tried to weasel out.
So, you despicable liar, where did I say anything about this movie? And - you despicable liar, where did I support Patrick's position on it?
You are truly beneath contempt for making those personal and completely uncalled-for attacks, and for lying through your teeth.
So you are getting yourself deeper and deeper into your lies... where did I do that:
"You're supporting patrick's positon"
I objected to your insult of him, as any decent human being would. I said nothing about his position, but even if I did, only a person like you would consider that an invitation to personal attacks.
It looks like you are simply unable to say anything about anything without resorting to direct lies.
If you, despicable liar, called myself of a friend of mine a parrot in my face, I would have slapped you.
As you - surely as next year taxes - deserve this for your lies and insults.
I haven't said anything about patrick being indecent; that's your warped perspective apparently. You keep siding with him about a film you haven't seen and making rude comments about Michael Moore, who may in fact be a very decent guy himself not to mention an inspired filmmaker; at best, that makes your opinions on Fahrenheit 9/11 less than informed and possibly even dishonest.As for what patrick does or does not know about film, I would never question his vast knowledge of European cinema except perhaps from the standpoint of personal preferences or tastes. European films aren't my primary area of expertise nor even a major interest although I do have a fairly broad collection of films including many European classics and a keen interest in German silent cinema. However, without any offense intended, patrick apparently knows diddly squat about American cinema and the tastes of the American viewing public. Now you can insult me all you like, and I'm sure that you will, but I've probably seen more American films and have greater personal knowledge of film history, especially silent cinema from having studied it (i.e., casually and academically), than you and patrick combined.
> > > "I objected to your insult of him, as any decent human being would." < < <
Your defense went far beyond that, IMHO.
> > > "If you deSSSpicable liar, called mySSSelf of a friend of mine a parrot in my faCCCe, I would have SSSlapped you." < < < (excuse the paraphrasing; embellished for proper context)
What IS your problem with animals? First DOGS, and now PARROTS! You apparently loathe DONKEYS and have a hard-on for ELEPHANTS; I hate to think what'll happen when I tell you that you're full of BULL! ;^)
First I love the American Cinema, I grow with it too, and it is the mother of the professional way of marketing movies.
What I donīt like are junk films made of images taking out of you the ability to think! And that is what the kaka of today movies does. The US gave the bad example, and now it is the world that have followed. Sign of the times.
You as a so proclaimed left with an intellectual heritage you dispute to the right, YOU should be aware of THAT! ( images overkill versus reflection )
You know what silent movies are? You should follow their mutism.
Get an analyse.
Filthy liar, show me where this happened:"You keep siding with him about a film you haven't seen"
I would be ashamed to be you, with lie after lie, being caught again and again, yet refusing to admit it.
You insulted a man and then you lied about me, and yet you have arrogance to try to giggle it all away.
Filthy liar, what exactly was my opinion on that film?
"that makes your opinions on Fahrenheit 9/11 less than informed and possibly even dishonest."
This is completely slimy behavior.
"Your defense went far beyond that, IMHO."
You have no "humble opinion" in this matter. You called him a parrot, a strong insult to any thinking individual, and you never even thought to apologize. You behaved like the worst kind of a person.
So, you filthy liar you, where did I support Patrick's opinion on this film?
Filthy liar.
After that you can come back here and belittle my opinions all you like in a thread about Fahrenheit 9/11; in the mean time, you haven't paid the price of admission.'Nuff said.
***After that you can come back here and belittle my opinionsCan't you say a SINGLE word of truth, you filthy slimy liar?
Where did I belittled your opinion on that film? A quote?
Delusional filthy liar you are.
A "SINGLE word of truth" is generously provided in the subject line. There are many more, but you're obviously not ready for them.*** "After that (i.e., having seen the film) you can come back here and belittle my opinions all you like in a thread about Fahrenheit 9/11; in the mean time, you haven't paid the price of admission." ***
> > > "Where did I belittled you opinion on that film?" < < <
Read my comment again s-l-o-w-l-y, and then THINK about it: My point was that before jumping into a thread to criticise someone else's opinion you should at least take the time to see the film being discussed yourself. Patrick is supposedly an adult; you don't have to wipe his nose every time someone disagrees with him over a film he trashes.
By involving yourself in a difference of opinion between two individuals who maintain TOTALLY different perspectives on a film they've seen, you're taking sides. Since you haven't seen the film in question, that makes you a kibitzer! If you don't understand the meaning of that Yiddish word, especially MY meaning of it, then I suggest looking it up in Webster's; you probably won't like it.
Food for thought, mull it over and have a nice evening,
AuPh
I presume in your trailer park it is normal to lie about people and never apologize, but here we consider this behavior one of scum and trash, and you have done very well with it.The smallness of your mind is obvious in the fact that you never answer any direct question, you instead try to constantly change the subject in order to avoid exposure.
Filthy liar you are, and I hope this thread stays, as I will be constantly refering to it in the future.
You apparently don't fathom how arrogant, petty and off base you appear here. You accuse others of lying while lying yourself, you stick your nose into situations that are none of your concern while having no clue about the subject being discussed, and you expect an apology when your own errors in judgment have resulted in almost all of the rancor.> > > "I presume in your trailer park..." < < <
That's odd, because after seeing Fahrenheit 9/11 and reading the outrageous comments you've made in this thread one might assume that you currently live in one of two places: 1) A ranch on the outskirts of Crawford Texas, and 2) 2600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington D.C. (until January, 2005)
Take care! :o)
Patrick posted his view of a film.You responded immediately with personal insult. As many of know, and as clark loves to point out, you always insult people when you have nothing to say.
In your "retort" you said nothing about the film, you simply insulted the poster. Apparently you are quite jelous of his friendship with me, and to a small person like you this is enough justification for an insult.
Of course a rude insult like this demanded a response, and I properly slapped you in the face. And of course my response did not say anything about the film, but everything about your trailer trash behavior. The behavior appropriate of the sewer, but not the forums where people try to exchange their opinions on films.
To that ou replied with lies. When I asked you to substantiate your lies, you of course changed the subject, eventually dropping down to the gutter level, suggesting that my criticism of your RUDE behavior and lack of civilized manners was equal to my endorsing a particular viewpoint.
Given your typical rhetorics found on Outside, where you are rightly considered a king of hypocrisy, this was not surprising.
What IS disgusting and slightly surprising, is your desire to bring your trashy morals here, to the forum where most people manage to stay away from personal petty insults.
So, you filthy liar, let me slap you in the face once again, and once again, ask you: what exactly did I say about that film in this thread?
If folks want to see what was really said and how you inserted yourself into the conversation without having seen the film they can simply click on the Film Asylum button and scroll down to the thread.Facts:
1) You jumped into a conversation over a film you hadn't seen.
2) You insulted me personally when I hadn't even addressed you.
3) You persisted, ignoring my recommendation that you see the film first.
4) In his original post, Patrick's remarks were arguably inflamatory, inviting my strong response.
5) I did apologize for ruffling Patrick's feathers after suggesting that he was your pet parrot. ;^)
Really AuPh, here you are 100% wrong. You take your desire for reality.
Try to be honest.
Grrrrr....
Which wound are you talking about...Hehe....
;^)
Up side down....
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