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• Re: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 - Studio_Rat 11:09:31 11/04/04 (1)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  So far, I haven't heard anything intelligent out of any of you. Moore lied in "bowling", I'm sure more of the same was in F911. He is not a true documentary filmaker. You don't script documentaries, or embellish. He admitted to embellishing facts in "BFC

  Fact: Heston's "cold dead hands" speech, which leads off Moore's depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was his gesture of gratitude upon his being given a handmade musket, at that annual meeting.

  Image of a webpage for America's First Freedom (a website for NRA, not for Heston) with text "48 hours after Kayla Rolland was prounced dead" highlighted and zoomed in on.
  Your impression: Heston did something 48 hours after she died. Why else would "his" webpage note this event, whatever it is? What would Heston's action have been? It must have been to go to Flint and hold the rally. His NRA webpage" with highlighted reference to "48 hours after Kayla Robinson is pronounced dead." Here's where it gets interesting. Moore zooms in on that phrase so quickly that it blots out the rest of the sentence, and then takes the image off screen before you can read anything else. Guess what the page really said happened? Not a Heston trip to Flint, but: "48-hours after Kayla Rolland is pronounced dead, Bill Clinton is on The Today Show telling a sympathetic Katie Couric, "Maybe this tragic death will help."" Nothing to do with Heston. Incidentally, if you have the DVD version and the right player, you can freeze frame this sequence and see it yourself.

  Moore fabricated this BS and fed it to as as fact. He's no better than Fox News...
  
  

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  • Aren't you a little... late... with this? But of course, I agree... nt - clarkjohnsen 13:37:12 11/04/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by Studio_Rat on November 04, 2004 at 11:09:31:

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• FAHRENHYPE 911 is MUCH more factual - teresaludekerry 08:21:30 10/09/04 (4)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  If you want to watch a documentary, watch Fahrenhype911. Moore's movie is not even close to a documentary.

  Moore is a very stupid, hypocritic slob. It amazes me people don't have the brains to see through his inconsistencies and very dense premises within his movies. He should be ashamed of himself for trying to delude people with intentional lies. Hopefully those clueless self righteous Hollywood limosine liberals will pass him over for any more awards.

  ps. senator ketchup is a 2 faced liar who will put us all in the poor house.
  
  

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  • No offense, but you apparently don't know what you're talking about. - Audiophilander 23:35:26 10/09/04 (2)
    In Reply to: FAHRENHYPE 911 is MUCH more factual posted by teresaludekerry on October 09, 2004 at 08:21:30:

    Fahrenheit 911 may not be perfect, but whether viwewed as a documentary or partisan propaganda with more than a touch of biting irony, it connects the dots far better than your cheap demagoguery! Sadly, you made no effort, not even a token one, to repudiate the accuracy of Mr. Moore's film. Instead you attacked his intelligence and personal appearance (i.e., which in all probability is superior to yours on both counts) without even addressing the very real issue of the bogus POTUS's incompetence!

    Whether you like it's Director or not, Fahrenheit 911 built a damning case for Smirkenstein's lack of fitness to lead this great nation. The bottom line is that Michael Moore must've done a pretty good job of slaughtering the right-wing's sacred cow ...or would that be sacred BULL... because the level of vitriol you've deposited here (i.e., with apparent Mt. St. Helen's aspirations) suggests that he sure as heck got your panties in a bunch!

    BTW, now that Clark seems ready to pucker up to kiss your proverbial internet fanny I guess that means you'll be comin' back for Moore. ;^)

    Regards,
    AuPh
    
    

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    • Re: No offense, but you apparently don't know what you're talking about. - teresaludekerry 10:21:55 10/10/04 (1)
      In Reply to: No offense, but you apparently don't know what you're talking about. posted by Audiophilander on October 09, 2004 at 23:35:26:

      It does take a moderate intelligence to see the great stupidity in Michael Moore's films. Sadly, he happily gets away with it. His deceptions in F911 are well documented. Clark lists a link below (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/#ContinueArticle ).

      Have you seen FahrenHYPE911? It's an excellent film. Give it a view. I picked mine up at Best Buy for $10.99.
      
      

      • FahrenHYPE911   (Open in New Window)

      
      

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      • No need to see the anti-Moore propaganda. Living in Texas I was aware of Bush's shenanigans long before ... - Audiophilander 16:54:23 10/12/04 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: No offense, but you apparently don't know what you're talking about. posted by teresaludekerry on October 10, 2004 at 10:21:55:

        ...he stole the Presidency in 2000. Moore's film was actually too fair to Smirk in spite of it's occasional distortions for the sake of ironic humor. If ever a President deserved to be impeached AND convicted of incompetent leadership it's George W. Bush. His depraved indifference to the sombre task of leading this nation up to 9/11 combined with his rationalized LIES to the American public about Iraq being a terrorist state and now his distortions of John Kerry's record speak volumes.

        > > > "It does take a moderate intelligence..." < < <

        No offense, but you appear to be very Conservative in this area as well. ;^)

        AuPh
        
        

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  • "Moore's movie is not even close to a documentary." No kidding. By the way... - clarkjohnsen 09:35:34 10/09/04 (0)
    In Reply to: FAHRENHYPE 911 is MUCH more factual posted by teresaludekerry on October 09, 2004 at 08:21:30:

    ...*who are you*?

    clark
    
    

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• Excuse me, made by Dick Morris? 'Handjob' Dick Morris? - kanesays 13:43:30 10/07/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  So Clinton's former political adviser, who boasted to a prostitute about his links to the White House, is now a filmaker? LOL

  Now there's a man I can trust to tell the truth.
  
  
  

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• Dont' bother, neocon wet dream. - Duilawyer 13:42:11 10/07/04 (7)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  Like I said on outside; all thse claims by cons about "lies" and yet NOT ONE was ever put forward. And of course the news shows Moore was right about most stuff.

  Clark, tell us one lie on Farenhiet 911. One teeny mistake. Then you are entitled to bash it.
  
  

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  • "All thse claims by cons about 'lies' and yet NOT ONE was ever put forward." LOL! This guy's a *lawyer*? - clarkjohnsen 07:37:07 10/08/04 (6)
    In Reply to: Dont' bother, neocon wet dream. posted by Duilawyer on October 07, 2004 at 13:42:11:

    > > There are many articles which have pointed out the distortions, falsehoods, and lies in the film Fahrenheit 9/11. This report compiles the Fahrenheit 9/11 deceits which have been identified by a wide variety of reviewers. In addition, I identify some inaccuracies which have not been addressed by other writers.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1166355/posts

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    Then we have that notorious right-winger Christopher Hitchens:
    
    

    • “Unfairenheit 9/11: The lies of Michael Moore”   (Open in New Window)

    
    

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    • We are still waiting. Post that lie. In the header. Or are you just full of - Duilawyer 17:36:34 10/08/04 (4)
      In Reply to: "All thse claims by cons about 'lies' and yet NOT ONE was ever put forward." LOL! This guy's a *lawyer*? posted by clarkjohnsen on October 08, 2004 at 07:37:07:

      hot air?
      
      

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      • Blather on, lawyer. "59 deceits" covers the lies and the gross misrepresentations. - clarkjohnsen 07:07:42 10/09/04 (3)
        In Reply to: We are still waiting. Post that lie. In the header. Or are you just full of posted by Duilawyer on October 08, 2004 at 17:36:34:

        Notice you didn't mention it, only Hitchins.

        Case closed. Summary judgement. And you're up before the Bar Association for incompetence.

        clark
        
        

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        • POST one right here. Go ahead, make our night. - Duilawyer 22:34:10 10/10/04 (0)
          In Reply to: Blather on, lawyer. "59 deceits" covers the lies and the gross misrepresentations. posted by clarkjohnsen on October 09, 2004 at 07:07:42:

          Clark's "truths" are always just around the corner.
          Just almost here.
          Any day now.
          Almost, Just wait, he's going to go get it.
          Right now.
          Imminently.

          The man with no facts, just slurs. And diversions. Post one of the illustrious 59, Senator McCarthy.
          
          

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        • Funny, but if you enter the word "incompetence" in a Google search guess who's name will come up more often? - Audiophilander 23:50:48 10/09/04 (1)
          In Reply to: Blather on, lawyer. "59 deceits" covers the lies and the gross misrepresentations. posted by clarkjohnsen on October 09, 2004 at 07:07:42:

          Here's a clue: It isn't Duilawyer! ;^)

          Cheers,
          AuPh
          
          

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          • LOL!! NT - PdL 11:25:28 10/10/04 (0)
            In Reply to: Funny, but if you enter the word "incompetence" in a Google search guess who's name will come up more often? posted by Audiophilander on October 09, 2004 at 23:50:48:

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    • This guy is definitely a lawyer, allowed to practice in every Federal court. - Duilawyer 13:55:29 10/08/04 (0)
      In Reply to: "All thse claims by cons about 'lies' and yet NOT ONE was ever put forward." LOL! This guy's a *lawyer*? posted by clarkjohnsen on October 08, 2004 at 07:37:07:

      And you amn't.

      A lawyer would be the first to note, again you dodged, and evaded.

      What is the falsehood? Post it here. A link is nice too, but Hitchens, IIRC did not find factual flaws; he disagreed with the conclusions Moore draws, which is, of course, NOT a lie. It's a different opinion.

      That's why you are not allowed to practice law.

      I don’t follow your link because you failed the truth test. What is the false statement in 911?
      
      
      

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• Re: Where's the info content on that site? - Jeff Starrs 11:52:11 10/07/04 (1)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  I mean, have you ordered it on the basis of viewing the site?
  At least with Moore, you know what you're getting!
  
  

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  • Ya gotta order the DVD! Then, you tell me... nt - clarkjohnsen 12:00:36 10/07/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: Where's the info content on that site? posted by Jeff Starrs on October 07, 2004 at 11:52:11:

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• Have you seen Moore´s film? (nt) - orejones 10:28:51 10/07/04 (1)
  In Reply to: Contrast and compare -- FAHRENHYPE 911 posted by CLARKJOHNSEN on October 07, 2004 at 09:15:24:

  
  
  

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  • Clark would probably prefer the Dick Morris handjob. (nt) - Audiophilander 23:27:53 10/07/04 (0)
    In Reply to: Have you seen Moore´s film? (nt) posted by orejones on October 07, 2004 at 10:28:51:

    ;^)
    
    

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