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In Reply to: Yeah, I believe it was evidence.... posted by Chris Garrett on November 04, 2004 at 19:52:38:
Agree, but the dream sequence with the father introduces questionable issues. Not only does Foster travel dimensionally, but possibly across states of existence or being. I hope that makes some sense as it is difficult to describe what the movie inferred. Did Carl Sagan touch upon these complexities in his writings?Regards
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the 'dream sequence' wasn't a dream. The aliens could read thoughts and memories and felt it best to take the form of her father, to be less frightening and more comforting. They felt that we weren't ready for any prolonged first contact.That's what I got out of a few viewings over a bunch of years.
Chris
There you go! Too many years since my single viewing and a twisted memory of the details. For me, it's a good movie worth watching again. Thanks for the insight.
i think the travel to Virgo sequence was demonstrating time contraction as theorized by Lorentz, etc. for objects traveling near lightspeed. So she "aged' much less rapidly than people on earth. The difference in "clock times" is evidenced by hours of blank tape. Note: Sagan originally was going to use a black hole as mechanism for Dr. Arroway's time travel until Kip Thorne at CalTech convinced him that wouldn't work, so "wormhole" was substituted.
Does the Lorentz theory state that as one travels near lightspeed there exists a proportional contraction of time, which can be calculated in relation to the proximity to the finite measure? In other words, does time slow down at a specified rate based on travel speed?Wormhole has become a familiar vehicle. I think without a “Stargate” concept, wormholes are a bit incomprehensible.
What did you make of the Father on the beach sequence?
There was an experiment in 1971 testing the time dilation theory in which (very accurate) atomic clocks were flown around the world to see if time "slowed down" on the clocks in the aircraft relative to identical ones on Earth. They found out the clocks aboard the aircraft when it finally landed were about 50ns behind the stationary clocks on Earth.
Fascinating... But, I assume the results are considered meaningless relative to the small increment in time at applicable speeds.Since this is the films asylum, when the speed of light is reached has anyone theorized the potential for standardized “Altered States”?
Interesting parallel between contact and altered states, now that you mention it...
Lorentz "transformations" are equations showing how relative velocity of two "reference frames" - one moving, the other stationary affect time, mass and dimension (length) when measurements of those quantities are compared. No "large" effects show up until speed of the moving frame is very close to speed of light, relative to stationary frame. At slower speeds, the equations are still valid, differences just too small to measure.Father on beach sequence was a bit dramatic but not bad, made sense considering the rest of the movie, like young Arroway contacting the beach in Florida on ham radio at beginning of movie.
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