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In Reply to: Well it finally happened...i saw Kill Bill and KB II posted by Jazz Inmate on November 08, 2004 at 14:50:33:

you should ask your friend why he liked it - or read some of the critics like Roger Ebert to find out why they liked it. Note: That does not mean I'm saying your wrong and they're right - but usually people have a reason for liking films Like Pulp Fiction(which is in fact a story about something --- Redemption).
Kill Bill Vol 1 and 2 I enjoyed - I walked out of both with a silly grin - I am not a fan of the martial arts genre and I don't recall watching very many when I was young. I plan on buying the 2 movie set which will eventually come out. Is it about a whole lot more than what it seems to be about - is it just stylized shock value violent entertainment - is it just a homage to a weak genre?
I don't think so I think Vol 2 is one of the two best films I've seen this year.

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Re: Maybe - Jazz Inmate 00:29:24 11/09/04 (1)
I agree that Pulp Fiction was about something--or tried to be about something when you cut through all the nonlinear presentations and other cheap ploys...I thought it was about honor and loyalty among thieves more than redemption. It was fairly fresh and free of cliches but even then I recognized Tarantino as an "artist" who would prefer to show you a cheap thrill or trick than real character development or plot. When faced with real questions about his characters at various points in a film, he will usually shy away from a defining answer in favor of superficial nonsense. That is why, for me, his films don't live up to repeat viewings, though I find them entertaining. Until now.
- Re: Maybe - RGA 20:07:38 11/09/04 (0)
  I can agree - but I don;t think it's a cheap trick to present a film in a nonlinear fashion - there was nothing difficult about following Pulp Fiction and the device was chosen likely for pacing. I also don't think it would work linearly because we would not be able to get a read on the characters as well. Several people in the film are on continuums in their thieving lives. The Tarantino character who is obviously worked away from his prior thieving life - he's the ex con married a nurse away but can be trusted as a safehouse - we have the boxer who isn;t really the crook - until now.
  Can a film work from the dialog outwards is the key - like I say you either buy into Tarantino's diolog fictitious worlds or you don't. I mean Kill Bill Vol 1 i was watching and literally cringing at how ridiculous and paper thin it seemingly is.
  It reminded me of the scene in Pulp Fiction where Uma Thurman was talking about being in a failed pilot when she was in the Fox Force Five - Kill Bill Vol 1 seems to be a film spawned from that scene in Pulp. It was howlingly ludicrous - and yet I came out with a grin. I can;t really explain it and I certainly understand why people loathe everything about it. But not every film needs to be about anything of major importance - which explains perhaps the success of Seinfeld.

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