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In Reply to: Well it finally happened...i saw Kill Bill and KB II posted by Jazz Inmate on November 08, 2004 at 14:50:33:
I got a lot of respect for Tarrentino, though I know that's not the consensus on this board. Basically, he was able to make a film that compromised to no one, has turned a profit for his fianciers, and so he will continue to make films that please himeself and whoever cares to join him on his own terms. Some might call it self-indulgent, and I wouldn't say that's an incorrect label to attach to the Kill Bill films.I like the films, but I didn't love them.
However, the sticky issue I throw out is this. Often we watch films and complain that the studios mucked with them or held back the director to make them mainstream. And we long for the days when the director had "final cut" and could make his vision come to life as he sees it.
Yeah, we cheer when a band refuses to edit down a single just for radio playability, or when Elvis Costello changes the plan and jumps into "Radio Radio" on a TV performance, and we boo when the Stones changed words in "Let's Spend the Night Together" for a TV perforance. Kill Bill does that. So shouldn't we applaud Tarrentiono for going forward with his vision, no holds barred?
"HO, HO, HO!" - Santa Claus
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I guess it all depends on whether you think Tarantino has a worthy vision or whether you think he's a talentless hack. I fall into the latter group, but I can see how someone believing there is merit to his films would want the whole shebang. If Kill Bill is the best he can do, I think his level of talent is shamefully low.
Keep in mind that many did [and still do] consider Picasso, Stella, Warhol, Monet and Serra hacks too.A primary measure of quality in Art is the ability to engender many responses and meanings. A statement that works on many levels.
You may hate Guernica too....
Later
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It isn't the best he can do. You have heard of Pulp Fiction haven't you? Resevouire Dogs anyone? Anyone?
I actually do like Reservoir Dogs the most of Tarantino's films. But that is because of Harvey Keitel, Roth and Buscemi. What they did with that script was amazing. If not for them, it would have been trash...right from the start with the dirty story about the virgin to the end where Tarantino can't even show what happens with Buscemi.
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