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In Reply to: Re: An observation... posted by Dave-A on November 08, 2004 at 19:14:09:
I love the Simpsons. Southpark is ok, but maybe I just need to give it more of a chance. I have only seen "The Passion of the Jew" which I thought was a pretty funny response to MadManMel's sadistic, anti-semitic piece of trash (do I have your permission to take "The Passion of the Christ" literally?). King of the Hill doesn't do a thing for me, though my friend from Texas loves it. Team America--you lost me. I don't know what that is.I'm not sure I took Kill Bill quite literally...how exactly does one take images of a pregnant woman being brutally beaten and then shot in the head? Or the scenario of an orderly selling the body of a woman who has been in a coma for four years to any trucker who rolls into town...or a mother having a dagger thrown into her heart and dying right in front of her young daughter. And those scenes were just the first few minutes of the first film. Not cool. Not cool at all, daddy-o. I have never seen anything remotely as disgusting, crass, tasteless and utterly pointless on the Simpson's or Southpark or King of the Hill, have you? If Team America shows that kind of crap, i'm glad I haven't seen it. You don't have to take Kill Bill literally to know it's a new lowpoint for Hollywood.
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"new lowpoint for Hollywood", "talentless hack", this is all so melodramatic and silly.My friend and I enjoyed Kill Bill I in the theater, then went back to see Kill Bill II. Ate popcorn both times. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I also so Pulp Fiction 3 times before it ever left the theaters. Never saw it on video. Never saw Kill Bill on video. Probably won't.
When limbs are chopped off and blood spurts out like a fountain, in rhythm to the still-beating heart, we laughed. I still laugh when I think about it.
I definitely think you'd better stay away from Team America.
No one asked Tarantino to tackle subject matter such as the brutal beating and shooting of a pregnant woman, murder of a mother in front of her daughter, or rape of a woman in a coma. He chose to tackle those subjects, and turn them into entertainment. Think about that before you accuse me of being melodramatic. All of those scenes looked pretty darn realistic to me. Didn't look like a spoof of anything.Yes, I laughed when Daryl Hannah had her remaining eye plucked out and writhed and kicked on the floor in frustration, blindness and agony. I laughed when the eyeball squished between Uma's toes and the optical fluid leaked out. I was eating chocolate chip cookies. But unlike you, I'm not proud of my reaction.
in a way of what Tarantino manages to muster from some of his films. Take Pulp Fiction, they're in the back of the car the gun goes off and blows brain matter over everyone. This should be a totally horrifying thing to see - it's vile, repugnant, gory, etc and yet it elicited a huge laugh from virtually everyone in the theater. It's not like the kid deserved it etc and it happened fairly early in the film.Tarantino uses violence to an absurd level as did George Romero in Dawn of the Dead - arguably the goriest horror film to that date. Romero manages with his gory zombies to make them virtualy forgotten and later sympathized.
Tarantino is so over the top with his gory violence that it's cartoon like - heck he even has a cartoon sequence in the film and that scene is arguably the most horific morally in the whole film. I think the film is a whole lot smarter than it gets credit for - but yes the surface of it is a howler.
for laughing at those horrible things. But before you beat yourself up too much over it, try to remember it really is only a movie. None of this actually happened. I would not enjoy at all documentary footage of eyes popping out. But over-the-top cinematic effects? I laughed too. There are plenty of serious things in real life to get upset over. Gory movies don't upset me.
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