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In Reply to: Re: I am afraid we are in for another " Muppets Show "... posted by patrickU on December 4, 2004 at 14:13:31:
Define loud and crowdy and explain how the original was neither. We may then have a bet.
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I was ready for it.
Loud: ear shattering digital effects .
Crowdy: all synthetic soulless people.The difference?
It should be evident. But in the magnitude of, say, the first Star War and the latest one.Bet?
"I was ready for it."Good.
"Loud: ear shattering digital effects ."How does one determine that? The volume will vary from theater to theater. If you are betting that the sound editing will be digital I would agree. So what? May as well complain that it will be in color too. You will be very hard pressed to find any films that are all analog sound films these days.
"Crowdy: all synthetic soulless people."Interesting. You found the characters to be natural and soulfull in the original?
"The difference?
It should be evident. But in the magnitude of, say, the first Star War and the latest one."Fine example. So the characters simply have to be as natural and soulfull as the original? Who gets to decide?
"Bet?"
Possibly. Not about whether the sound effects editing is digital or analog.
Different languages.
And I am at pain to try to communicate the different world between an intimate film and the big blockbusters of today, or if you want the form over contend.
Still I only PRESUME that it could be that way!
I maybe wrong and we may find a film with a soul, which, of course I seriously doubt!
But the proove has to be seen.PS: When I write " digital " it is more the whole concept that I take to the pilori as segments.
You still didn't answer the question. Who gets to decide whether the remake has more or less natural soulfull characters? If there is a bet there has to be a way to determine who wins the bet. Of course we will still have to iron out just what the bet is over.
Experience, which I do not doubt will not satisfy you! But it should spring to our eyes.
The problem will be inherently between us, hehe...As you certainly did find LOTR a film with qualities I did not.
So as you said, a difficult task.
I answer your question but with a "periphrase"...
Short I see no way to make this bet alive.
But if you find a possibility and some " rule of the game " I am, of course, in. As you maybe.
Experience? Who is that? *Someone* has to make the call if there is going to be any bet. If you wish to suggest a *person* to judge I'll consider your suggestions. Indeed we disagree on LotRs. But you are also at odds with many people with tremendous experience and knowledge in both film and literature. It's OK not to like something that is excellent like LotR and it is OK to like something that is dated and not really very good like the original King Kong. I like them both.
Many people...Hum...I would not hide between ANY people, as I rely on my point of view without been closed minded, I let always a place to misjudgement.
BTW, Bernardo did not like this film too, even we seldom agree on pictures, I must say he is right on this one...Hehe.
And then why would we not take him has a " judge " ?
If you are willing then we may have a bet?PS: And he must be too! ( willing )
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