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• "Whatever God does is for the best." - njjohn 11:39:53 12/05/04 (0)
  In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by patrickU on December 5, 2004 at 09:57:57:

  I'm about 3/4 through the film now. Getting a chance to "study" it.

  1) The people in this film, especially the children, are extremely beautiful to look at. Ray, like Fellini, has an incredible aesthetic sense of people. Like Fellini, he knows people and he can capture them with the camera just like that.

  2) Most compassionate film I've ever seen, and perhaps the most life-affirming(and "Bicycle Thief" and "Miracle In Milan" are extremely life-affirming films).

  Perhaps it takes a simple drama to reach for the highest conception of order in the universe. People pay for their sins against humanity in this film, so it is life affirming in that way, in a way that affirms the true order of the universe.

  But life goes on anyway. Plus, there is a beautiful self-realization involved. These are sensitive, spiritual people to begin with.

  The father is a very spiritual person but against the backdrop of the ideals of the universe, it is not enough. Slight flaws and misdirections will do anyone in.

  There is only one law and it involves complete compassion. If you don't have it, you are going to pay.

  Back to the movie, I guess. I know the best is yet to come.
  
  

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• Re: "Pather Panchali" - PCL 10:01:40 12/05/04 (7)
  In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by patrickU on December 5, 2004 at 09:57:57:

  Patrick,
  You may also wish to order the other two films that make up the Apu Trilogy: Aparajito and The World of Apu.

  PCL
  
  

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  • Re: "Pather Panchali" - njjohn 10:30:15 12/05/04 (3)
    In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by PCL on December 5, 2004 at 10:01:40:

    The other two are worth seeing. If I remember corectly the woman in the third film has a remarkable beauty.

    I'm in the middle of watching "Pather Panchali" now. I had been recalling it from memory. I'm about half-way through.

    I have just a sense of groundwork only so far.

    I'm a grown man but I'm pretty much tearful now through the whole movie. That is how the film has grown on me. It has become this emotional masterpiece, like no oeht I have expereienced. Perhaps the most "feeling" film ever made. It just does not let up.

    The characters are setting themselves up. Slight imperfections or tendencies in their characters. The boom is about to drop.
    
    

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    • Re: "Pather Panchali" - PCL 10:50:12 12/05/04 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by njjohn on December 5, 2004 at 10:30:15:

      Interesting you should use the term 'feeling'. I've found ( in my admittedly limited experience) that films from the subcontinent share this characteristic. Be careful that Ray is not a gateway drug that'll have you freebasing Bollywood films next!;-) ( apologies to any sensibilities ruffled by seeing 'Satyajit Ray' and 'Bollywood' in the same sentence)

      PCL
      
      

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      • How deep can it go? - njjohn 12:46:41 12/05/04 (1)
        In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by PCL on December 5, 2004 at 10:50:12:

        Wow, it's been a long time since I've seen a film like that.

        Have to take the lesson with me. Have to know the true priorities.

        It's rough.

        When a film really tries to point out life. Too powerful. Really of priceless value.

        I've seen some good Hollywood films in the past few years, but nothing that even remotely goes this deep.

        I don't think Ray goes in the next two films anywhere to this level, but I have to check them out again. I think he does have some other brilliances. I remember seeing some othe remarkable stuff.

        The only other film that I've seen that might go in this particular direction of deepness and insight is "Ugetsu", a Japanese film.

        I'm not sure but I remember something about it. It is suppose to be a film about "misguided ambition and forbidden passion". I got a copy of it so I'm going to check it out soon.

        
        
        

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        • Re: How deep can it go? - PCL 13:11:32 12/05/04 (0)
          In Reply to: How deep can it go? posted by njjohn on December 5, 2004 at 12:46:41:

          I presume you're referring to Mizoguchi's Ugetsu Monogatari? Incredible film! The published screenplay edited by Keiko McDonald is a very nice read, and is a great one-volume book on the film.

          Quite different approach though, don't you think? Mizoguchi uses war and ghosts, where Ray bog standard life.Great fun reading your (re)discovery of PP! I don't recall that the following films necessarily suffer in comparison to PP though, but it's been a few years for me as well.
          
          

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  • Re: "Pather Panchali" - patrickU 10:07:04 12/05/04 (2)
    In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by PCL on December 5, 2004 at 10:01:40:

    Thank you! I will first take a good look at the first installement, but it is good two know that there could be two more to follow the line!
    Patrick
    
    

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    • Re: "Pather Panchali" - PCL 10:42:37 12/05/04 (1)
      In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by patrickU on December 5, 2004 at 10:07:04:

      Patrick,

      You will be happy to note that the three films together are nothing like the LOTR trilogy.

      PCL
      
      

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      • Re: " Much noise about nothing " to paraphrase LOTR.... - patrickU 11:38:45 12/05/04 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: "Pather Panchali" posted by PCL on December 5, 2004 at 10:42:37:

        And William...
        
        

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