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In Reply to: The Decline and Fall of Our Society as We Know It. posted by Daryl R on July 07, 2000 at 20:20:27:
You learned a BIG lesson about how the movie industry gets off the hook - it's YOUR responsibility to check the movie out beforehand. Nuff said.As far as being R instead of NC-17 (which is apparently deserves), our local (Everett, WA) movie critic explained it this way. There appears to be a different standard for comedies than these is for other film genres. Your complaint has been voiced about other films as well. For some reason the "board" considers such exhibitions more appropriate for comedy and less deserving of a NC-17 rating. Nuff said.
I do not trust Roger Ebert or most movie critics who review films from an adult perspective to inform me about the content of a movie for my children. If you are sincerely concerned about what your children are seeing, I suggest you look at ratings from a conservative movie site like the link below. The sad fact is that over 60 percent of movies released today are R rated, leaving little behind. I believe G rated is about 5 percent with the remainder PG and PG-13. In spite of making the most money on G and PG rated films, Hollywood continues to turn out stuff like this. I used to argue it was economics until I was confronted with these facts. You can interpret the data in whatever way you wish, but I prefer to believe you were on the right track to begin with.
If I hear another self righteous comment about how communism did this versus christianity did that versus whatever. Get off it. If you want to post a link to a particular review site, this is fine but it might be helpful for you to point out that there is a particular slant to it.In other words, preview it for US just as others suggest that parents preview for their children. If someone doesn't want to be exposed to ideologically based reviews, then why subject them to it. Just give a disclaimer such as, "If you'd like some alternative views on various movies from an XYZ viewpoint, you might visit the following". Imagine if you had linked us up with a neo-nazi, supremicist website having "movie reviews". This would be highly objectionable.
I'm not saying DON'T post your links, but just try warning us about them -- clearly, you've gotten this reaction a couple of times so why not work WITH others and not just antagonize them.
As for this movie, I for one intend think people are taking themselves a bit too seriously if they think that this is the beginning of the end of humanity. Hollywood does this and that's life.
In my original post, I clearly identified the site as one that presents a conservative viewpoint. Thus I did reveal its ideology - conservative. There is nothing on that site which proselytizes and there is only one link identified as Christian. So what are your objections? My old stock brokerage used to have a Christian link on its site. So does that make it a Christian company with Christian ideology for investing? It is a major northwest brokerage that is secular in its philosophy - capitalism. It also had secular links as well. Nothing in the "Content Rules" would lead me to believe I HAVE to say anything about the content of a link. You'd think it was a porno site by your reaction.Every review site is ideologically biased in some way so I guess we all need to take your advice and I will try to do so in the future. I would ask you to do the same for me if you post a link to a political, religious, or morality based site that I might not agree with. So, oh great wise one, what site do you consider suitable for me to find out the true sexual, violence, language, nudity, drug content of a movie? I await your sage answer.
Self righteous? Check the threads. I did not start this. Maybe you would like to mention your first paragraph to "whatever." Let's be fair here, eh. Rather I wished only to provide a link that people may wish to consider to try to screen movies from a conservative perspective. I was merely responding to whatever's uncalled for attack that was launched against me. Do I have that right or do you believe that free speech is only for those who hold your views? BTW, yours and the former thread are the only ones that have objected on the Internet so your conclusion is false. My reference was to snail mail I have received this week in response to a letter I sent to a local newspaper.
The wonderful secular world seems unwilling or unable to provide comprehensive screening information. I'm glad someone will take the time to do it from a conservative standpoint be they Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, or whatever.
So you put a christian link on your post? More people have been brutally murdered in the name of christ than any other religion. At least movies are fantasy, and everyone knows that. But christianity, in fact all religions are brutally true. I'll take Hollywood any day!
I never thought I'd get assaulted for trying to provide a source of conservative reviews for films that provides information no other review site will concerning language, sex, violence, drugs. Whatever, do you have an alternative? I bet not. I love folks who blambast others only to have no alternative. Roger Ebert? You have to be kidding. So what source are we who wish to shield our children from this filth to turn to? The ratings board? This thread shows how poorly it performs at least in this case.BTW, this is the second assault I've received this week in this vein, and my response was the same as Victor's. Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, need I go on? Ask the millions of Red Army troops who were slaughtered as cannon fodder and those in the Gulag and Killing Fields. The total approaches 100 million at least from the atheistic communists who supported universal brotherhood and equality in their credo. Name me a time in recorded history when mankind was living in perfect harmony with each other. There is none. If you live in Seattle, whatever, I think we may have corresponded via snail mail.
***More people have been brutally murdered in the name of christ than any other religionMost likely not true. Most likely that honor belongs to communism.
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