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The film is so very German... I mean - modern German, that it is scary. It is also completely void of any redeaming values.Well, maybe there was a small one... I think I caught the word "ubgefucked" - could that be right?
Patrick, was there any noise in Germany around that 2001 "masterpiece"?
Whom was it made for? Likely the same crowds that enjoy the Rammstein? Must be.
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Victor,
A couple of weeks ago I became curious about what films you like because of how you tend to so violently trash movies you *don't* like. You could say more and communicate so much more effectively, and bring people into your conceptual orbit to much greater influence and effect, if you employed a more collegial and open-minded tone of voice. You wouldn't have to moderate your opinions, really, just how you transmit them. I could not possibly be more convinced that you are only about bloviating and celebrating your own ego through the loud hammer-blows of your knee-jerk reactions in the form of faux "opinions."I know I could just act on this without announcing it to you and the rest of the folks, but I want to declare publicly that I have no intention of ever attempting to engage you in a discussion about film...or anything else for that matter. It would be an unmitigated waste of time.
If you reply I will not respond, but I will certainly read your reply for its amusement quotient.
Elliot Berlin
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You mean you don't like Rammstein?! Heck, I like Mozart and still find a few hours in my life for a good Rammstein session now and again! Anyway, I don't know what you thought of "Run, Lola, Run" but I found it to be a pleasant surprise. Also a thoroughly modern German film. I like to watch it in the German language best even though I don't speak it. My wife hates subtitles, but I have to say that it makes some movies to keep them in their native language. When my buddy first brough over the movie and was talking about how cool it was, I was looking at the title and groaning after seeing the previews. I thought, great - a movie about a chick running through town...
-Bill
I thought Lola was boring in near extreme. I made through it once, albeit with some effort, and would never watch it again.Calling it grossly over-rated would be a classical understatement.
BTW - my only familiarity with Rammstein is from watching some Russian MTV.
but I was impressed with the numerous alternate endings and the use of various camera types for 1st person, 3rd person, etc. perspective. The charachters were common and the whole thing was stupid, but I still thought it was a cheap thrill.
You should demo some of your gear on the main floor at the next CES using Rammstein. The passive, subtlety should be enough to persuade more than a few I-Pod toting/hocking geeks to visit or at least lunge for the volume control. ;-)
-Bill
Well....
Yuk Patrick; I don't think most Germans would like being "stereotyped" as neo nazis just because they like or play heavy metal. I have always thought Rammstein to be tongue-in-cheek, not supporting past hatreds. They rank right up there with Spinal Tap in my book of "Campy" metal gods.
-Bill
Are you talking to yourself?Rammstein is know to have had pro-Nazi text and a little more. That is explain in the link I put on.
More unclear?
rather the link that you provided. I don't speak German but I have read some translations of a few songs and didn't find that to be the case. I don't find that ideology amusing or glamorous in any fashion. I may be ignorant on my Rammstein "anthology" themes, but I don't think either one of us is stupid.
-Bill
Case closed.
As I said they were pro-Nazi in their begining. That is a fact. And this I don´t like, but don´t like at all.
And nothing against music.
Not at all.
The " New German " films don´t work for me since Fassbinder death, yes some of the Schlöndorff can do the trick, but certainly not the so polished politically so correct commercially German film industry. And above all not an actor like Schweiger the pale copy of a pale B.Pitt.
But watch out, there are sign of renaissance here, new directors and new films are coming.
I have not see them, yet.
One thing I want to add, the young Turkish generation who was born and did grown-up in Germany are getting very good directors and actors.
As in other fields.
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