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In Reply to: Re: My friend you may have a case of " idee fixe "------- posted by patrickU on March 19, 2005 at 05:04:15:
the point of my post, i.e. the incredible number of "I was persecuted" Jewish-themed films EVERY YEAR. Enough, already....
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Well here we have that amount of poor persecuted Algerian or Marocain or black people from the French ex-colonies.
And rightly so! As racism should have NO place in society. And you know why? Because it is just plainly dumb.
The Jewish are a part of the establisment so the films we see are not about persecution.
But about art or commerce, like all the rest.
"the point of my post, i.e. the incredible number of "I was persecuted" Jewish-themed films EVERY YEAR. Enough, already.... "That was the point? Funny, your post started by calling Chariots of Fire "What ridiculous propaganda, another portrayal of the magical Jew."
Patrick's comments were quite relevant to your mindless rant and dead on to boot. The guy was real, his struggle was real and it was just one part in a multifaceted movie. Maybe you think there should be a quota on the number of movies depicting Jewish people. That wouldn't be facist would it?
And yes you put in the real relation. But the real problem is Tin fundamentally flawed view on the Jew.
It must be a kind of obcession...Am I glad that that he do not have the same view on French films......
is racist and not racial?
You and Scott fail to acknowledge the ridiculous amount of Holocaust related films that are released every year. No, Patrick, it is NOT about Jews in contemporary society I'm talking about.
Someone may posit that it is to keep the Jews thought of as victims as they maul and slaughter the Palestinians, but I wouldn't...
Next up, Patrick and Scott savage a food critic for suggesting traditional Jewish food is inedible and that Maneschevitz is truly terrible wine...
"You and Scott fail to acknowledge the ridiculous amount of Holocaust related films that are released every year."Are you now claiming that Chariots of Fire is a holocaust related movie? I guess history isn't one of your favorite subjects. Chariots of Fire predates the holocaust. Duh. Now to the subject you have chosen to arbitrarily raise since it has NOTHING to do with Chariots of Fire, the movie you attacked because it depicted the real life struggle of one Jew. Unlike you, I feel film makers are free to choose their subject matter and if a number of film makers choose to make films about the holocaust that is thier right as artists and not a problem. There are no quotas on such things as subjects for films and obviously there shouldn't be. Sorry dude but your posts become more and more idiotic and facist each time around. You attacked an excellent film because it included the real life struggle of one Jew. That's pretty damned anti-semitic in my book.
"Next up, Patrick and Scott savage a food critic for suggesting traditional Jewish food is inedible and that Maneschevitz is truly terrible wine..."
Dude, seriously, get a clue. If the movie were bad for artistic reasons that would be one thing. You attacked *because* it depicted the struggle of one Jew. If a food critic attacks anything *because* it is Jewish and not because it tastes bad he or she would be every bit the anti-semite you seem to be.
alien to your powerful cortex.
Yes, the story occurred before the Holocaust but the film didn't. Get it? It was chosen to make a point (I have no doubt you fail to recognize propaganda when it hits you in the teeth so I'll help you).
And...the movie sucked. Kind of an English Patient type of schmaltz-fest. Hey, you like feel good movies, be my guest.
Scott, the 24-karat, guilt-dipped critic.
(And...have you told Virginia how to get in touch with me yet? Be sure to tell her I'm sure to be uglier than her current beau. Be useful, at least...).
"alien to your powerful cortex.
Yes, the story occurred before the Holocaust but the film didn't. Get it?"Yes, I get the fact that your views are so intensely anti-semitic that you think any depiction of any Jew struggling against prejudice in any place or any era is somehow about the holocaust. That's simply idiotic.
" It was chosen to make a point"Bullshit, it was chosen because he was a part of that group of athletes that exceded theier expectations. Get a clue.
" (I have no doubt you fail to recognize propaganda when it hits you in the teeth so I'll help you)."I have no doubt you see propaganda in any movie that depicts any Jew facing any sort of prejudice. That's your problem not mine.
"And...the movie sucked. Kind of an English Patient type of schmaltz-fest. Hey, you like feel good movies, be my guest."
Oh, movies about human triuph are catagorically schmaltzy. dude, really, get a clue.
"Scott, the 24-karat, guilt-dipped critic.
(And...have you told Virginia how to get in touch with me yet? Be sure to tell her I'm sure to be uglier than her current beau. Be useful, at least...)."
No, I see no reason to tell her to more anti-semitic pigs.
A contempory Jewish man.
And not about Holaucost, is it not?
As Scott wrote mildly do you want a quota? Well you must not see any films on this theme if you donīt like too?
Or?
You just have a bias.PS: I ate in London a few times Jewish traditional food...It remains me at the Greek one. Somehow oriental, not my prefered cuisine, but ok.
propagandized.
I have liked many "Jewish" films but I object to a flood of them, especially since NO Arab-themed films are produced by this country.
Garden of the Finze-Continis, Schindler's List, Marathon Man, are excellent, as are many more.
And the save harbor of film critic...
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