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In Reply to: "The Incredibles:" they sure didn't make it easy on parents. posted by tinear on March 25, 2005 at 14:09:54:
Tom and Jerry. (These two were so .. violent, Simpsons parodies them with Itchy and Sccratchy!)Bugs Bunny vs. Just About Everyone.
Mighty Mouse.
Woody Woodpecker.
All of the above are vintage, from as far back as the 30's for some of 'em -- and they were far, far more violent than many of the shows today, be it ink and paint or hy00mans.
But your'e right, Disney has always been lily-white, no safe-dropping, no piano-dropping, no exploding cigars. No six-pack of dynamite.
Feh. No wonder I turned otaku.
Besides, isn't Incredibles targeted at *us*?! Just like all the aforementioned toons? I don't think they had the kiddies in mind when they did 'em -- else, they woulda put out such dreck as Barney or Totoro or that weird little locomotive.
I seriously dislike the US attitude that 'toons are for kids.' Double-feh on that. Toons don't make sense till you grow up ;o)
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If you have ever seen the early Mickey Mouse cartoons, the ones from 1927-1932, you'll figure out quick why he became such a beloved icon in Depression-era America. He was brash, vulgar, and didn't give a damn about anything! Bart Simpson could have been based on him. Have you seen the sequence in one cartoon where he pulls and plays with a cow's udders?! Using the same sort of career blueprint that the Colonel would use with Elvis, Walt began looking for a way to tone Mickey down to appeal to an even wider "family" audience and still have an "attitude" in his short cartoons. The creation of Daffy Duck helped for a year or so, but by 1935, Disney threw his creative muscle into Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and that ended the last bit of real anarchy in the Disney cartoons.Leonard Maltin has written a couple of good books about American animated shorts 1920-1968 (from "Gertie the Dinosaur" to the closing of the Warners animation studios [it is interesting to note that George Lucas originally wanted to work on Warner Bros. animated cartoons and when he got an internship to WB, the first place he went to was "Termite Terrace", the famed animators studio. They had just closed it down. Looking for someplace to work for 3 or so months, he wandered into an office where another young tyro, Francis Coppola was preparing "Finian's Rainbow" and dreams of an animation career ended!].) Maltin has written some good stuff about the early Disney sound cartoons.
The Incredibles are humans (albeit, super-ones).
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