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In Reply to: If you're a conservative or religious ... posted by RGA on March 25, 2005 at 17:33:30:
I'm neither conservative nor religious, and I didn't like this film. (Although M$B is well enough crafted and well enough acted for me not to actually "hate" it.)I wasn't in the least offended/outraged/upset by the choice the characters made in the film's final act. (BTW,I think the Feds should stay the hell out of the Schivao case and the state courts.)
M$B simply didn't hold up well for me story/character-wise, and I saw it twice in the theater (too many...cliches).
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ending coming? Thye really telegraphed that punch.
yes I realize it can be disliked for cinematic reasons -- but it is being lambasted in some sectors for idiotic conservative political reasons.Granted this is the third time since 1990 I have agreed with the best picture winner -- I agree in part but I felt as i did with Life is Beautiful that this film walks a fine line of falling into Maudlin cliche but doesn't slip -- you feel it did -- fine by me.
I am more lenient on shmaltz in film though because film is to me not always supposed to reflect life. My theater background however projects this view onto film otherwise film would just pale so completely in comparison.
Especially a certain kind of fuzzy-brained scmaltz - I hated Life Is Beautiful and A Beautiful Mind - heck, I don't even like ET.It was rather sad, but not surprising that the soft/silly Finding Neverland was nominated instead of the excellent Vera Drake. This year, I was rooting for The Aviator, which I though was a fine piece of bravura filmmaking. But sentimental it ain't, and sentimental is an easier sell to AMPAS. It's obscene to me that Kevin Costner and Mel Gibson each have a directing Oscar, and Clint Eastwood two, and Scorsese none.
OTOH, Marty is in good company - many of the greatest directors of all time never won a directing Oscar, including Hitchcock, Chaplin, Kubrick etc. Indeed, there are far more great films that didn't win for BP or BD than there are great films that did.
To be fair, that's not what Oscar is about. The Academy Awards actually have little to do with the "best film" of any given year, whatever the heck that is. (I personally feel you need time and distance to ultimately determine that.) Oscar is an industry award, geared toward a rather narrow range of commercial cinema, especially U.S. studio product. It's more about film business than film art. And that's fine, as long as we remember that the Oscars are a Hollywood popularity contest and nothing much to do with art for the ages.
As much as I love theater (and I really do, although I don't perform anymore, I do get to local productions, Chicago and NY fairly often) I expect theater and film to use different language - each medium is equally thrilling but different in nature. As far as commercial theater, I loved Steel Magnolias off Broadway with the original cast, but didn't muich care for it conflated to an all-star chick-flick. (You can't get much more sentimental than that.) However, my favorite drama on stage - Shakespeare, Stoppard, Ibsen, Shaw, Moliere - is hardly sentimental either. (In fact, I don't quite understand how a stage background makes one more accepting of falseness in film.)
It started out as a 2, but really got going to a 10. No? I do not ant to give anything away, but didn't you think the ending was better than any rocky moment. I was standing, cheering!
Saw it in December. It really grew on me, so much so, I went back to see it again a couple weeks ago.Yes, I loved the ending. Smart and funny movie. I'm tired of dumbs movies. This one made we want to cheer.
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