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In Reply to: "The Incredibles:" they sure didn't make it easy on parents. posted by tinear on March 25, 2005 at 14:09:54:
... you obviously haven't made it to the 2nd disc yet. May I suggest your watching the deleted scenes and Bird's commentary before making any subjective assessments about Brad Bird's personal experience with parenting.>>> "I know, I know...it's just a film, it's all done in "fun." But no one that has kids under-appreciates these anti-hero actions by a....larger than life hero." <<<
Sheeeesh! The Incredibles wasn't aimed at the rugrats demographic tinear, and why should it be? There's plenty of that mindless drivel out there already! The Incredibles was produced with intelligence and wit for older kids and adults who like animation and carry with them a certain nostalgia for animated super heroes. FYI, the super-speed tack in the chair gag (which was very sharp in my estimation -grin) and the humor surrounding a super hero dealing with real world job frustrations doesn't rise to the level of unsuitable material for adolescents, if you ask me.
>>> "What a shame...you could trust Disney to separate good and evil with black and white lines. Today, raising kids is hard enough without major entertainers getting into a kid's head, pre-school." <<<
First of all, I'm GLAD it wasn't "Disneyized" to death; today's Disney productions, with rare exception are pure CRAP! Secondly, PIXAR is the creative force behind their films and is now separating itself from the onerous influence of Disney Studios which has taken credit for PIXAR's independent work for years. As far as good and evil and black and white lines, what you're alluding to is propaganda, because those lines don't always exist; sure, they're there, but the good/evil/B&W elements have to be balanced by TRUTH and real-world sensitivities. To do less would be a disservice to all children and the adults who raise them.
Geez, we live in a world where worse things are on the evening news at suppertime EVERY friggin' night and the video games aimed at kids are more violent than anything seen on television or read in adult crime novels (note: I'd be the first to agree with you that there should be age limits on violent videogames and restraint on certain kinds of reality based programming that kids are exposed to on television)! BTW, back in the 1930's The Three Stooges were engaged in much more violent anti-social acts in their films and those shorts were aimed at family viewing.
So let's not get carried away with dissing PIXAR for producing a bright witty feature that both kids and adults can enjoy simply over mature content that will be over the heads of most younger kids anyway.
Follow Ups:
...it's an animated film - not a parenting "how to". Please don't confuse the two.
Your points are well-taken.
They're wrong, though.
I do appreciate the fact that you took my points well, but I would have appreciated it more if, in failing to take them well, you had seen their merit. The fact that you didn't says more about being overprotective than it does about good parenting, but that's just my opinion; YMMV.BTW, since you consider my opinions "wrong" I gather that you consider Brad Bird a poor parent because he chose not to make the kind of mindless kiddie film that you'd feel more comfortable allowing your 4 year old to watch, or am I missing something?
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