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In Reply to: Sex and violence: posted by tinear on April 2, 2005 at 04:46:34:
There is no difference between the two in substance - in how they have evolved during the past decades. In both the violence and sex cases, the hint, the anticipation, the premonition and the emotions surrounding them, have been replaced with mindless graphic presentation of act itself. So I really don't see anye difference in their treatment.You like the babe in lingerie rather than full monty (never mind the pun)... cool, and I would draw the parallel with the scene with Robert Mitchum in The Night of The Hunter, where whistling Mitchum rides by the hiding kids, producing more gripping horror than all Friday the 13th sequels compbined could even dream of.
Subtlety expects some level of sophistication from the audience. As movies had become more and more mass culture fun, popcorn sale extension, really, the level of subtlety has dropped accordingly, but again, that happened in both areas.
Why aren't the NOW babes complaining? I just presume, that besides being typically hypocritical, they also represent the significant proportion of the viewing public that willingly pays to see all that crap.
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But part of my point is we get loads of violence now, even in mainstream movies, but precious little sex, i.e. depiction of seduction and the act itself.
Secondly, "mass culture fun" always has been what movies are about: I'm talking Hollywood now, not European art-house movies.
Re: lingerie. Well, when you see the nude figure and BOOM it proceeds to the act, that may be the beginning of sex but it's the end of sensuality: as exciting as watching farm animal sex.
Your first paragraph brilliantly points out that "staging" is necessary. Hitchcock's Psycho not only is one of the most menacing movies, it also shows a Janet Leigh (the white and then the black undergarments) that exudes desire.
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