Films/DVD Asylum

In Reply to: Nigel! Quick! We found another one! posted by Victor Khomenko on August 14, 1999 at 17:29:52:

When did she put out a credible performance & in what movies?

I've only suffered through such dreadful tripe along the lines of Fried Green Tomatoes . I'm sorry but don't recall anything she's done at the moment. It must be selective psychosematic amnesia. She seemed compelled to walk through "chick flicks" leaving them even more bereft of substance than you thought was even possible. I started feeling sorry for the poor director who must've had to hide her vallium. She almost obliterated Hamlet just as Robards did in Julius Ceasar , but thank God she wasn't on screen long enough. It was more like a short absurd distraction like Keanu in Much Ado About Nothing .

• Fried Green Tomatoes = the "Citizen Kane" of lesbian cannibal movies! TAFKA Steve 18:20:14 8/15/99 (16)
  In Reply to: Great! posted by Mart on August 15, 1999 at 02:23:41:

  Actually, I think it was Glenn Close who starred in Mel Gibson's Lethal "Hamlet", not Meryl Streep ("Sophie's Choice", "Deer Hunter", etc.).

  The actor that annoys me a lot is Kevin Costner, whose "star quality" outshines his acting ability in nearly all of his films. Charlie Sheen has even less acting ability.
  
  

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  • You hit it on the head Victor Khomenko 05:06:12 8/16/99 (14)
    In Reply to: Fried Green Tomatoes = the "Citizen Kane" of lesbian cannibal movies! posted by TAFKA Steve on August 15, 1999 at 18:20:14:

    I did some soul searching on subject of Meryl and I agree with Mart more and more. She certanly looks and acts intelligently (and I am a big sucker for anything intelligent), but I went through all her filmography and it is true, I didn't find one movies that I would like to keep in my collection. All those "French..." and "Bridges..." are nothing but waste of everyone's time.

    ***The actor that annoys me a lot is Kevin Costner, whose "star quality" outshines his acting ability in nearly all of his films.

    Boy, that is so true. He is very high on my list of non-entities. Right next to Harrison Ford.

    ***Charlie Sheen has even less acting ability

    Oh yeah? And how about Richard Gere then? Can you down THIS choice?

    This weekend was a disaster. My wife managed to score four lousy ones out of six. I will give her another chance, but she surely gest a warning. The best old one probably was "How Green Was my Valley" - but maybe I am still way too young for that. There was the Hoop Dreams, of which I saw some glimps and I don't generally like forcing myself - I am not big fan of any illiterate sports figures. The brightest spot was probably the Howard's End once again. This is pathetic because usually I choke on those actors and associated ambiance.

    Speaking of ambiance, contrasting with the stifling "End" are such things as Dangerous Liaisons (by the way, a pretty good job by Glenn there). Full of light and airy interiors of my favorite period.

    Steve, did you see Charles Bronson in the Honor Among Thieves (don't recall its French title now)? They say it was not his usual and rather good. Can't find it anywhere to rent, may have to just buy it. Amazon has the DVD for $9.
    
    

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    • have you tried 'Out Of Africa'? gnat 07:49:00 8/16/99 (13)
      In Reply to: You hit it on the head posted by Victor Khomenko on August 16, 1999 at 05:06:12:

      
      Hi, Victor

      
      Though I hate this *genre* (biography... melodrama...),
      I love this particular *movie*. And I LOVE Meryl in
      this film. :)

      Bridges... hmm... some fine jazz in the soundtrack...
      not a 100% waste of time imho.

      
      regards, gnat

      
      
      
      

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      • yawn (nt Mart 13:07:27 8/18/99 (0)
        In Reply to: have you tried 'Out Of Africa'? posted by gnat on August 16, 1999 at 07:49:00:

        
        
        

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      • No big argument here Victor Khomenko 08:08:44 8/16/99 (11)
        In Reply to: have you tried 'Out Of Africa'? posted by gnat on August 16, 1999 at 07:49:00:

        Though I hate this *genre* (biography... melodrama...),
        I love this particular *movie*. And I LOVE Meryl in
        this film. :)

        Yes, Meryl was good in the Africa.
        Redford is another story altogether. Can't stand him, there is something totally phony about this Mr. Allegedly Goodlooking. I only watched all the way through the Horse Whisperer, tolerating him all along the way, because of Thomas - I like her, but need to be careful, for some reason my wife is not too keen on her...

        
        ***Bridges... hmm... some fine jazz in the soundtrack...
        not a 100% waste of time imho.

        I probably agree some. Also, I have that soft spot for Clint from his early work.

        
        
        

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        • have yet & looking forward to see "Bird" (nt Mart 13:09:25 8/18/99 (0)
          In Reply to: No big argument here posted by Victor Khomenko on August 16, 1999 at 08:08:44:

          
          
          

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        • Roudy Yates? petew 04:56:10 8/17/99 (9)
          In Reply to: No big argument here posted by Victor Khomenko on August 16, 1999 at 08:08:44:

          from the late '50's horse opera "Rawhide?" Just by being in a scene he ruined "Gil Favor's" career. Gee Victor, I didn't know you were that old. Clint's in the same category as John Wayne, his screen personna is so huge it really doesn't matter what he does up there. My favorite is Outlaw Jose Wales, because the supporting cast is so good. Who would have thought to cast real Native Americans to play the Indians? I bet the Italian actors were mad about that! (like the famous Italian "Indian" who sheds the littering tear). A pretty funny film, that tries hard to be serious. Who's the guy who plays the Union officer that tracks Clint, and then lets him go? He was great! Love the resonance of his voice. But please, why didn't the commancheros kill Clint's girlfriend when they had the chance? That's the biggest flaw in the movie.
          
          

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          • now I wonder... :) gnat 08:59:56 8/18/99 (1)
            In Reply to: Roudy Yates? posted by petew on August 17, 1999 at 04:56:10:

            
            ...just how old am I, since I enjoy "Good Bad & Ugly"
            and "Dirty Garry"?

            Hell... where's my "Lawrence of Arabia"? :)

            
            regards, gnat

            
            
            

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            • RELAX ... Mart 13:12:33 8/18/99 (0)
              In Reply to: now I wonder... :) posted by gnat on August 18, 1999 at 08:59:56:

              ... just means you don't want to remain serious 24/7 drama. But I much prefer Olivier's Shakespearian work over his modern dramas.
              
              

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          • Life/screen connection Victor Khomenko 08:30:45 8/17/99 (6)
            In Reply to: Roudy Yates? posted by petew on August 17, 1999 at 04:56:10:

            ***Who would have thought to cast real Native Americans to play the Indians?

            Every person who is born on the American soil and spends his life on this continent is Native American.

            You are right about Clint, but remember, my familiarity with him really started only about 20 years ago. I didn't have chance to grow up with him. I am not Native American, just a dedicated naturalized one.

            I also tend to connect the actor's screen work with his personnal life behavior. Many fail this test miserably. To me the screen role always is an extension of real life personality. This is why Leonardo has no chance of capturing my heart. Clint gets pretty low passing grade in my view - which is still better than many others. I don't know if I am being a complete hypocrite, but I am very forgiving towards Jack Nicholson. He may be full of vices, but one can't deny - he enjoys life and lets others around him to do the same.
            
            

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            • I give-up ... Mart 07:54:31 8/18/99 (4)
              In Reply to: Life/screen connection posted by Victor Khomenko on August 17, 1999 at 08:30:45:

              what's wrong with Clint's personal life? Is there anything else besides Sandra Locke ? Because if that's it, unfortunately, you won't find anybody in Hollywood to root for.

              At least he's not one of typical Hollywood lefties like Demi Moore / Rosie O'Donnell out to make the nation into a fascist regime & won't settle for anything less than a complete revoking of the "Bill of Rights" & PC straight-jacket on behavior.
              
              
              

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              • Not much Victor Khomenko 08:20:02 8/18/99 (3)
                In Reply to: I give-up ... posted by Mart on August 18, 1999 at 07:54:31:

                ***what's wrong with Clint's personal life? Is there anything else besides Sandra Locke? Because if that's it, unfortunately, you won't find anybody in Hollywood to root for.

                Not much there at all, as I said before I have a lot of respect for him. We all work with the information we have and according to mine he could have been a bit more "manly". This may be skewed information, for sure.

                ***At least he's not one of typical Hollywood lefties like Demi Moore / Rosie O'Donnell out to make the nation into a fascist regime & won't settle for anything less than a complete revoking of the "Bill of Rights" & PC straight-jacket on behavior.

                5000% agreement here. I could add many more names to that list, heck, I'd rather concentrate on the list of politically smart Hollywood personalities, it is hundreds of times shorter. I don't think anybody had analyzed the Hollywood psyche better than Rush. I see little need to repent it here.

                
                
                

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                • I hope you mean "repeat" it? Mart 09:06:53 8/18/99 (2)
                  In Reply to: Not much posted by Victor Khomenko on August 18, 1999 at 08:20:02:

                  ... but haven't a clue about Rush 's philosophy.

                  He's a tad too G.O.P. for me. I'm more of a conservative.

                  e.g.: There's is no surplus! But since it's convoluted non-existence is perceived as fact, it's best to have a tax-cut because the D.N.C. will further expand the debt much further & ensure the demise of S.S. & medicare radically sooner by its further expansion & growing entitlements. This isn't even debatable. The Dem's freely admit it, iff ( if & only if ) you listen closely enough. However, while I agree about the Rep's increasing deductions & removing the marriage penalty provisions ( even though I'm single w/ no dependents ), the G.O.P. want an across the board income tax cut. Hello?! This isn't where the illedged surplus resides. It's in the comparitively regressive withheld wage tax & that's where the across-the-board should take place ( even though I'd probably receive slightly more by the former plan ). That would be one bill fairly pork-free.

                  Also, since the G.O.P. has the reputation as cutting malious programs, such as the ...
                  ... sanctimonious Department of non-Education that insists on promoting mis-information instead of teaching children history, literature, math, science, etc.
                  ... elitist Nation Endowment of the Autistic that also enjoys routing money from schools in order to fund people with Tourette's Syndrome.

                  Just do it! Bypass the entire bearocracy & reroute all funds directly to the schools.
                  
                  

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                  • Makes sense both way, doesn't it? Victor Khomenko 13:12:00 8/18/99 (1)
                    In Reply to: I hope you mean "repeat" it? posted by Mart on August 18, 1999 at 09:06:53:

                    But yes, you are right.

                    ***... but haven't a clue about Rush's philosophy.
                    He's a tad too G.O.P. for me. I'm more of a conservative.

                    I am not a big scholar of his, but it seems that he is constantly on the GOP's tail for not being more "true conservative" and for not standing for their beliefs - for following the polls to closely. Heck, for paying attention to polls at all! I usually completely agree with his "die by your beliefs" philosoply.

                    ***Just do it! Bypass the entire bearocracy & reroute all funds directly to the schools.

                    I am always in favor of giving directly. Does that mean we should start paying directly to Clint and Jack and yes, even to Leonardo, and completely bypass Stephen and Lucas?

                    
                    
                    

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                    • if they haven't contributed ... Mart 13:17:23 8/18/99 (0)
                      In Reply to: Makes sense both way, doesn't it? posted by Victor Khomenko on August 18, 1999 at 13:12:00:

                      ... funding/imagination/inspiration/perspiration/clout/etc? By all means, YES! ... Absolutely!!! ... w/o a solitary doubt.
                      
                      

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            • Re: Life/screen connection TAFKA Steve 15:17:48 8/17/99 (0)
              In Reply to: Life/screen connection posted by Victor Khomenko on August 17, 1999 at 08:30:45:

              Nicholson is very loyal and generous to his friends, which is how he got stuck making "Man Trouble" as a favor to director Bob Rafelson ("Five Easy Pieces"). The pair teamed up again in 1997 to make the considerably better "Blood and Wine". It just occurred to me that Nicholson was sort of a dog trainer in "As Good As It Gets", too. He got it right the second time.

              Eastwood has definitely paid his dues to the industry. I still recall his role as a lab technician with an elusive mouse in 1955's "Revenge of the Creature", mostly 'cause my lab tech bears a strong resemblance (not to the mouse). I really like what he did in "Unforgiven", turning the typical Western gunslinger hero upside down to give us the ultimate antihero (like a classic Greek tragedy). But that singing he did in "Paint Your Wagon", yikes! (and I have the vinyl OST).

              Speaking of bad "singing", I am mortified that Warren Beatty wants to run for public office after doing "Bulworth". That movie made me think that Jesse Helms is really on to something worthwhile.
              
              

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  • sorry, if my antecedent confused you Mart 22:34:09 8/15/99 (0)
    In Reply to: Fried Green Tomatoes = the "Citizen Kane" of lesbian cannibal movies! posted by TAFKA Steve on August 15, 1999 at 18:20:14:

    but I intended to convey that Glenn Close was in Hamlet . Sophie's Choice was the Fried Green Tomatoes type movie I apauled. &, I don't recall her performance in Deer Hunter , much like my sister was trying to tell me a couple years ago who George Clooney was by informing me that he was in E.R. (a show I steadily watched for years) which didn't help a lick. Not until Batman did I even notice his character on E.R.. This geek, unlike Jeff Goldblum , is enormously forgettable!
    
    
    

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