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I have three for starters. Tous les matins du monde, generally available.And, two that *no one* has ever heard of I'll bet, except maybe Viktor because one is from Commieville; and they have just recently been issued on tape, which is what occasions this post: Intimate Lighting, and The Mozart Brothers. I've ordered them to see whether they're as good as I recall from having seen them in the theater decades ago.
But I'm also eager to hear about other titles.
"Deception" (Bette Davis, Claude Rains) - a woman pianist, her cellist husband, romantic complications (and, just incidentally, a fine score by Erich Wolfgang Korngold)
...now that you mention it, I'll never forget seeing Louis Malle's The Lovers as a college freshman. I was totally intrigued by the music, which upon investigation turned out to be a Brahms String Quartet, I think the op.51 #2, which I immediately went out and bought and I've never been the same.
In my opinion, most of the films depicting any kind of creative process, be it music, visual arts, architecture or writing are weak and gimmicky.
There are very few films that come close to what the creativity of their subject was based on, first of all because most of the great composers are dead and have been dead long enough to create myths about their lives - Mahler(Mahler;Death in Venice),Mozart(Amadeus - I quite like that film, but being based on an empyrical play it's nothing more than fiction), Van Beethoven(Un Grand Amour de Beethoven is interesting, but who knows how it really happened;The Magnificent Rebel;Immortal Beloved - that's the worst one of the bunch), Liszt(Lisztomania - no comment), Tchaikovsky(The Music Lovers).
The other side is composing(!) a film based on a seemingly fictional composer/musician as a protagonist.-Trois Couleurs: Bleu; Bird; The Constant Nymph;Jean Volgean(sp?);Round Midnight,etc. show us either sociopathic wankers, drug addicts or happy-go-lucky geniuses, surrounded by friends and hookers without any insight into what it's all about.
Where the truth lies, nobody knows. Perhaps the best representation of the composing as an immesurable gift are in the products of composing. As one poet put it "If only you knew from what rubbish the poems are assembled."
If we take the road less tortuous, then music documentaries are the best way to find out about composition and performance -
Mozart-Aufzeichnungen Einer Jugend
Vladimir Horowitz:The Last Romantic
Charles Mingus -Triumph of the Underdog
Monk-The American Composer
Horowitz in Moscow
For some reason or another most of these documantaries are produced in Western Europe, which is just as well.
Of course, there are some great films about music -
Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach
Taxi Blues
Igor Talankin's Tchaikovsky.
If you go to the Franklin Institute here in Philadelphia you can catch a 5 minute glimpse of the Philadelphia Orchestra going through Sleepers Awake!. It is in the short 15 minute Philadelphia Promotional film shown before features. There is also a great/brief segment showing some rowers on Schuylkill. It is quite nice to see and hear this Orchestra in the IMAX format - if only it lasted longer.
-regards,
Rich S.
*Thirty-two short films about Glenn Gould
*La Septième Cible aka The Seventh Target
*The Trial
*Carnegie Hall
*Intermezzo
*Battle for Music
*Le Grand Blond Avec un Chosseur Noir aka The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe(the original French film, not the remake)
*Unfaithfully Yours(the original with Rex Harrison, not the remake)
*Seventeen Moments of Spring
*Le Cuisinier, le Voleur, sa Femme et son Amant aka The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
*Un Coeur en Hiver aka A Heart in Winter
*Thirty-two short films about Glenn GouldYeah, Steve has already rubbed this one in enough... I guess I will have to see it again
*La Septième Cible aka The Seventh TargetRemember the movie, but not music. What was it?
*The Trial
Is that the 93 Kafka one? Haven't seen it. Good?
*Carnegie Hall
*IntermezzoThere are several. Which one?
*Battle for Music
*Le Grand Blond Avec un Chosseur Noir aka The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe(the original French film, not the remake)Are you kidding me? A MUSIC movie? It is one of the best comedies ever, but MUSIC?
*Unfaithfully Yours(the original with Rex Harrison, not the remake)
*Seventeen Moments of SpringNow I KNOW you are kidding.
*Le Cuisinier, le Voleur, sa Femme et son Amant aka The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
That one is VERY special. I would not say it is about classical music, but its use of music is exceptional, much in the same category as his use of images, thick and dense. Especialy the boy (girl?) singing in the beginning... chilling...
*Un Coeur en Hiver aka A Heart in WinterI was going to mention this one too, but then decided it was more about screwing and drinking coffee.
I am a bit surprised no one had mentioned so far either the Dr. Strangelove, the 2001 or the FMJ - they all make an EXCEPTIONAL use of music. Not all classical, of course.
I'm actually enjoying a 4 day vacation, listening to "Rhythm is my business", "Coltrane Sound" and "Hub Tones" and drinking Baltica # 7.
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*La Septième Cible aka The Seventh TargetRemember the movie, but not music. What was it?
If you remember the movie, then you must remember the symphonic score integrated in this film. If I recall correctly it was Saint-Saens amongst others.
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*The TrialIs that the 93 Kafka one? Haven't seen it. Good?
The one I know is Orson Welles' film with Anthony Perkins. Aside from the classical music score there's quite interesting and dynamic score with Martial Solal Trio's playing Jean Ledrut's music.
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*Seventeen Moments of SpringNow I KNOW you are kidding.
Nope, I dig the Tariverdiev's score, have the complete cd. Jazzy bass lines reminscent of Mingus' "The Haitian Fight Song" of all things.
===*Intermezzo
There are several. Which one?
The original Swedish film as well as the American remake are both adequate.
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*Le Grand Blond Avec un Chosseur Noir aka The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe(the original French film, not the remake)Are you kidding me? A MUSIC movie? It is one of the best comedies ever, but MUSIC?
Well, it was a funny film about a classical musician. The sequel was weak, but the 1st one is pure gold.
*La Septième Cible aka The Seventh Target
Remember the movie, but not music. What was it?If you remember the movie, then you must remember the symphonic score integrated in this film. If I recall correctly it was Saint-Saens amongst others.
I don't remember it THAT well. Perhaps will rent it again.
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*The TrialIs that the 93 Kafka one? Haven't seen it. Good?
***The one I know is Orson Welles' film with Anthony Perkins. Aside from the classical music score there's quite interesting and dynamic score with Martial Solal Trio's playing Jean Ledrut's music.
OK.
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*Seventeen Moments of Spring***Now I KNOW you are kidding.
Nope, I dig the Tariverdiev's score, have the complete cd. Jazzy bass lines reminscent of Mingus' "The Haitian Fight Song" of all things.
I agree it has nice tunes, just thought it was not at the same level as the rest. Ant talk about something obscure for this audience...
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*Intermezzo
There are several. Which one?
***The original Swedish film as well as the American remake are both adequate.
OK. Will look.
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*Le Grand Blond Avec un Chosseur Noir aka The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe(the original French film, not the remake)***Are you kidding me? A MUSIC movie? It is one of the best comedies ever, but MUSIC?
***Well, it was a funny film about a classical musician. The sequel was weak, but the 1st one is pure gold.
Agreed on this one.
I suggest you buy the 17 moments of Spring the album, if you don't already own it. It stands as a separate art work from the mini-series, with majority of cuts you probably never heard, since there were only "moments" used in the film.
Lend me ten bucks on approval?
Leave a VK-50 as a collateral an I'll lend you 50:)
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rex harrison in 'unfaithfully yours". a lot of classical music in it. doesnt really highlite the musical experience. a symphony conductor keeps going through his mind how to kill his wife while he has a perfecy alibi, he was conducying a symphony at the time. the movie is a HOOT.....REM
"Shine" - the David Helfgott biopic. Whatever you think of his music, it is a convincing portrait of the sort of burnout than can and does happen amongst driven professional musos."Unfaithfully Yours" (Rex Harrison) - although a comedy, and very over the top, is supposedly based on (or inspired by) the character of Sir Thomas Beecham. Great integration of popular classics into the soundtrack.
...although Victor thought it was pretentious, "Thirty-Two Short Films About Glenn Gould." Concerning the latter, I'm thinking of the scene where Gould (Colm Feore) sits a maid down to listen to a record passage and we watch the change in her facial expression. Ahhh, bliss and the wonder of discovery!
Don't know these two, have not seen any films by these directors - are they worth renting?As far as movies where music was used effectively - the Music Teacher, the Basileus Quartet, Barry Lyndon, any one of several italian opera movies (ah, all that classical bel-canto!!), Atlantic City, the one (can't remember the title) where he watches girls to the Lucia aria, Amadeus, All the Mornings in the World (love that one), Orchestra Rehearsal (another great one) and perhaps many others will come to mind later. As you can see they are all classical, but that's just my take.
Would it be safe to assume "The Blues Bros" and "This is Spinal Tap" don't count? Howzabout "Amadeus"?
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