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You live by your analogy, and you die by it

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Victor Khomenko

In Reply to: Re: I don't get your analogy posted by jamesgarvin on June 27, 2005 at 15:26:41:

I am glad you brought up the music subject, as it demonstrates how wrong you are.
One does not evaluate (intuitively) works of art based on their genre.
When I am driving and a catchy and beautiful country song hits the air, I do not think: "This is a country song, so I better quickly change my scale to properly evaluate it".
No, I simply instantly know whether it speaks to me.
And I instantly do the same for jazz, classical, folk, pop... doesn't matter one bean. There are great things to be found everywhere, and you know when you find them. If thing is beautiful then you can see it right away... provided, of course, you have sufficient education, experience, intuition etc.
Same with movies. I completely reject the notion of defining genre. If you have to mention the genre as a crutch, then the movie is deficient. I don't usually watch animations, but I took a look at the Shrek, and it hit a good note, in a matter of a couple of minutes.
Nothing like that is present in the LOTR. It simply didn't matter to me whether it was on or off, I could have walked away any second. With Shrek I wanted to continue watching.

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Jeeesus, Victor...Shrek?!?!? n/t - PCL 11:00:18 06/28/05 (8)
Shrek?????????!!!??????????!!!!!!???????
- Shocking... heh? - Victor Khomenko 14:17:41 06/28/05 (7)
  I did not see the whole movies, probably about 3/4 of it, but what I saw was funny and well made, with good human touch, some witty lines, wonderful voice over and animation.
  But this was by far NOT my guiltiest pleasure. Patrick might tell you I also love Clueless... he-he... I think it is a great film.
  - "Patrick might tell you I also love Clueless..." - I think that you love BEING clueless! (nt) - Audiophilander 16:08:34 06/28/05 (6)
    ;^)
    - Re: How profound and cute of you! nt - patrickU 05:06:28 06/29/05 (5)
      nt
      - It would be even more profound if your nom-de-plume were "Clueless," but I doubt that you'd find that as cute. (nt) - Audiophilander 10:35:46 06/29/05 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Re: How profound and cute of you! nt posted by patrickU on June 29, 2005 at 05:06:28:
        
        ;^)
        
        Re: Well you are some kind of slow.... - patrickU 11:27:06 06/29/05 (3)
        
        In Reply to: It would be even more profound if your nom-de-plume were "Clueless," but I doubt that you'd find that as cute. (nt) posted by Audiophilander on June 29, 2005 at 10:35:46:
        
        Who reads yesterday newspapers on the net?
        
        Re: Well you are some kind of slow.... - patrickU 12:05:51 06/29/05 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Well you are some kind of slow.... posted by patrickU on June 29, 2005 at 11:27:06:
        
        Are you?
        
        Only to anger. - Audiophilander 13:37:45 06/29/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Well you are some kind of slow.... posted by patrickU on June 29, 2005 at 12:05:51:
        
        In fact, I may be overly tolerant of grey poupon snake-oil salesmen with no respect for Peter Jackson's epic Tolkein trilogy.
        When a couple of BS nancy-boys spew prattle to tear down a series of fantasy films destined to become classics for the ages they deserve whatever nastiness can be mustard, ...err mustered. ;^)
        AuPh
        
        Archivists. (nt) - Audiophilander 11:50:58 06/29/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Well you are some kind of slow.... posted by patrickU on June 29, 2005 at 11:27:06:
        
        ;^)
Re: You live by your analogy, and you die by it - jamesgarvin 08:26:05 06/28/05 (0)
Victor, you missed my point. Does country music satisfy the same emotions, intellectual needs or desires, or the same impulse in you, as, say classical music? I do not know your music preferences, but is there a reason, at some time in the day, you choose to listen to classical versus pop? Why? Are there some times in the day you prefer to listen to pop over classical? Or country? If so, then it is because there is some emotion, some need that one form of music addresses, and one does not. I am not suggesting that you "listen" to one with a different frame of mind. Unless of course you only listen to classical, or rock, or country. Which would be consistent with you enjoying a specific genre.
Again, the use of the word "art." I am not sure what that means to you. Define it please. I suspect that if you view every film with an eye toward whether it satisfies your definition of "art", you will inevitably dislike most films, particularly those that are made to do nothing other than provide escapist entertainment. Those films will have value which you will not see, because they do not satisfy your notion of "art." Which is fine. But I can only imagine how much time you are wasting. Or is there a reason you enjoy watching films you know you will not like. What need does that exercise satisfy?

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