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Which of these should I watch tonight (in about 3 hours time)?
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Let's see: we have The Matrix which is a rather childish sci-fi/kung-fu/virtual reality flick that is bettered by more sophisticated The Thirteenth Floor. And Dark City shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as "that movie with Keanu." Face/Off is pretty entertaining with some great action sequences. I'd definately choose that over The Matrix. Of course then there's Heat which is a masterpiece and easily one of the ten best films of the last decade. To me it's a pretty easy choice: an honest to goodness masterpiece compared to two mediocre action flicks.
I watched Face/Off. Sure, the story isn't very plausible, but what the heck it's a great fucking movie (the other two movies too). All that double gun, slo-mo stuff. GREAT!
If you enjoyed the 'violent ballets' from Face/Off - I really rec two films from the Hong Kong years - 'Hard Boiled' and 'The Killer'. The plots are pretty cheesy but you can see why Cage and Travolta really wanted to work with Woo, and failed to achive Chow Yun Fats level of lethal cool . . .
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I couldn't put my finger on Ronin's problem until the bind the scenes schtick. The director was obsessing about the action sequences. That's not where this movie hinges. The two brlliant actors needed nurturing to develop the dance. These characters remained 2D throughout the film. It still was enjoyable, but what a pittiful waste.
2D characters? I certainly didn't think so. Virtually every character in Ronin is multidimensional, albeit in a somewhat subtle sort of way. Frankenheimer did spend a lot of time on the racing scenes, but he in no way neglected the drama. One of the best movies of that year, and one of the best action films in a while.
The excellent actors did the very best that the script allowed, granted. But, the director didn't seem to be interested in that aspect. That was my point. He was much more interested in the cheap theatrics (the predecessor to CGI) than the story or character developement. To me the obvious charm of the movie was the "Diner"-ish aspect of it. That's what I wanted from the movie & was left wanting. I wasn't allowed to even care about any of the characters no matter how I tried. Plus, without the ability to care about anybody or antthing, the action had no suspense nor drama. Any clearer?
Funny thing is I saw it to watch the cars on the recommendation of some BMW racing acquaintances....to satisfy my interest in swerving cars. And did not expect any other value in it. But it definately had potential and I ended up enjoying the story.I would have no hesitation in recommending Ronin.
Let me see if I remember this correctly. The driving scenes were shot
in real time and not undercranked which is common practice. Also in
the interior scenes the actors steering wheel was not connected to
anything and the stunt driver was in the other seat doing the actual
driving, in real time. So when you see DiNero behind the wheel
looking scared shitless that's because he was.Rich
Definately not Face-Off. This is pure crap, take my word for it. One of the most implausible stories I've ever seen. Surely John Woo can do better than this, but after MI-2 I'm not so sure anymore.The Matrix has great effects and can be enjoyable if you can get over the hard to swallow premise that Keanu Reeves has a great part to play in the fate of humanity. Lawrence Fishburne is excellent as usual.
Heat has some good action and actors, but does suffer from being too long and spends too much time with domestic situations rather than focusing on the crime story. If your a Pacino or De Niro fan you should like this film.
So, you have a Sci-Fi flik and a crime-action drama. If you have a preference for either of these genre then the choice is easy. The Matrix is shorter if time is an issue.
Happy viewing,
Analogon
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