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In Reply to: I read your replies and.... posted by Dan Steely on August 03, 2000 at 03:44:56:
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I couldn't put my finger on Ronin's problem until the bind the scenes schtick. The director was obsessing about the action sequences. That's not where this movie hinges. The two brlliant actors needed nurturing to develop the dance. These characters remained 2D throughout the film. It still was enjoyable, but what a pittiful waste.
2D characters? I certainly didn't think so. Virtually every character in Ronin is multidimensional, albeit in a somewhat subtle sort of way. Frankenheimer did spend a lot of time on the racing scenes, but he in no way neglected the drama. One of the best movies of that year, and one of the best action films in a while.
The excellent actors did the very best that the script allowed, granted. But, the director didn't seem to be interested in that aspect. That was my point. He was much more interested in the cheap theatrics (the predecessor to CGI) than the story or character developement. To me the obvious charm of the movie was the "Diner"-ish aspect of it. That's what I wanted from the movie & was left wanting. I wasn't allowed to even care about any of the characters no matter how I tried. Plus, without the ability to care about anybody or antthing, the action had no suspense nor drama. Any clearer?
Funny thing is I saw it to watch the cars on the recommendation of some BMW racing acquaintances....to satisfy my interest in swerving cars. And did not expect any other value in it. But it definately had potential and I ended up enjoying the story.I would have no hesitation in recommending Ronin.
Let me see if I remember this correctly. The driving scenes were shot
in real time and not undercranked which is common practice. Also in
the interior scenes the actors steering wheel was not connected to
anything and the stunt driver was in the other seat doing the actual
driving, in real time. So when you see DiNero behind the wheel
looking scared shitless that's because he was.Rich
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