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• Great lists from everyone..here are a few additions.. - PCL 10:55:52 07/24/05 (2)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  ..Great body of work, rather than individual favourite films:

  Wong Kar Wai: look at the films..Days of Being Wild, Chungking Express, Ashes of Time, Happy Together, In The Mood For Love (haven't watched my copy of 2046 yet)
  Hideaki Anno: Sustained brilliance through 25 episodes of Evangelion (that's something like 12-13 hours work of work!), and then Kareshi Kanojyo no Jijyo.
  Hayao Miyazaki: incredibly sustained run between Nausicaa and Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi. Favourite film is still Tonari no Totoro. But this is
  conditional vote...I think his partner, Isao Takahata, the more interesting director.
  Shunji Iwai: Love Letter, Swallowtail Butterfly, April Story, All About Lily Chou Chou.
  Satyajit Ray: Pather Panchali, Apajito, World of Apu, all the way to Agantuk.
  
  
  

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  • Re: Great lists from everyone..here are a few additions.. - patrickU 12:59:22 07/24/05 (1)
    In Reply to: Great lists from everyone..here are a few additions.. posted by PCL on July 24, 2005 at 10:55:52:

    In the Mood of Love...A boring´s boring film. It got mostly very good review, but what a bore!

    Father Panchali is a masterpiece to my taste.
    
    

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    • C'est la vie...n/t - PCL 05:43:55 07/25/05 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Great lists from everyone..here are a few additions.. posted by patrickU on July 24, 2005 at 12:59:22:

      n/t
      
      

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• Where is Fellini and Goddard??? - The Duke 11:05:50 07/22/05 (3)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Hardly any mention of Federico Fellini and Jean-Luc Godard.

  Fellini's "La Dolce Vita" and "8 1/2" are, in my opinion, two of the finest sound films of the second half of the twentieth century. Godard's "My Life To Live" is a great philosophical treatise on modern life. And, wow, Anna Karina's performance!

  Really, how can they be ignored? This is all so personal and subjective but one should have some historical context before stating favorite directors of all time.

  Responses to this thread are pretty much commercial Hollywood guys and recent films.
  
  

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  • Ignored? Au contraire mon amis... - Harmonia 23:33:23 07/22/05 (1)
    In Reply to: Where is Fellini and Goddard??? posted by The Duke on July 22, 2005 at 11:05:50:

    I believe my choices, as well as those of several other inmates, do indeed reflect sufficient historical perspective. (My list includes directors from the silent era to the present, thank you very much.)

    Patrick asked "who are your ten *favorite* directors", not "who are the ten *best* directors of all time, or the most "influential directors of all time, or the most "important" directors of all time, so the choices are bound to be very personal - which is what makes the responses so interesting.

    For me this meant many "great" directors whose films I admire - or even love - didn't make my list: Welles, Eisenstien, Bergman, Ray, Truffaut, Fellini, Lang, Lean, Visconti, Bunuel, De Sica, Fellini, Fassbinder, Wilder, Hawks and many others.

    I've always had somewhat mixed feelings about the brilliant Monsieur Goddard. While I agree his movies can be fascinating and provocative, and I readily admit he is one of the most important and influential filmmakers of the past 50 years, the fact remains...I don't love him, not yet. I plan to revisit his films, and perhaps I'll change my mind.
    
    Until then...a "favorite"? For you "oui", for me "no".
    
    
    

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    • Re: Ignored? Au contraire mon amis... - patrickU 07:47:49 07/23/05 (0)
      In Reply to: Ignored? Au contraire mon amis... posted by Harmonia on July 22, 2005 at 23:33:23:

      Well send post & so true. Congratulations.
      
      

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  • Re: Where is Fellini and Goddard??? - patrickU 11:45:54 07/22/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Where is Fellini and Goddard??? posted by The Duke on July 22, 2005 at 11:05:50:

    As far I am concerned, I do not like J-L Godard particulary but respect his intellectualism,
    But I feel that one day I will have to re-introduce him to myself...Fellini? One of the very finest.
    
    

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• You guys are so straight. - J.R. 04:52:21 07/22/05 (5)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  So where are Ken Russell and Nicolas Roeg? Regards,

  J.R.
  
  

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  • Straight? I can't believe I left Nic Roeg off my list. - Harmonia 18:52:15 07/22/05 (0)
    In Reply to: You guys are so straight. posted by J.R. on July 22, 2005 at 04:52:21:

    Walkabout, Performance (w/Cammell) and Don't look Now are three of my alltime faves.

    I've got very mixed emotions about Russell. The only films of his I own are Women In Love and The Boyfriend.

    To be "unstraight" in my book you have to be familiar with the films od Stan Brakhage.
    
    

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  • Re: You guys are so straight. - patrickU 10:10:43 07/22/05 (3)
    In Reply to: You guys are so straight. posted by J.R. on July 22, 2005 at 04:52:21:

    That´s only two.
    
    

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    • OK, here's another. - J.R. 17:04:22 07/22/05 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: You guys are so straight. posted by patrickU on July 22, 2005 at 10:10:43:

      Sam Fuller: ever seen "The Steel Helmet"? Regards,

      J.R.
      
      

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      • Re: OK, here's another. - patrickU 07:55:09 07/23/05 (0)
        In Reply to: OK, here's another. posted by J.R. on July 22, 2005 at 17:04:22:

        No. In fact I hardly have seen any of his films, beside his very first I think. Not longuely ago I ask for the " Big Red One " and every body did NOT recommend it here, so....
        
        

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      • Haven't seen Steel Helmet in years. - Harmonia 19:00:16 07/22/05 (0)
        In Reply to: OK, here's another. posted by J.R. on July 22, 2005 at 17:04:22:

        My favorite Fullers are Shock Corridor, Pick-up On South Street and the Naked Kiss. Fuller is a a gen-you-wine American original.
        
        

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• No Blake Edwards? - Road Warrior 12:53:34 07/21/05 (9)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  In addition,

  Scosese
  Lynch
  Hitchcock
  Speilberg
  Kubrick
  Coen Bros.
  Tarantino
  R. Scott
  J. Cameron
  Tim Burton
  J. Demme
  and to make it an even Baker's dozen

  Ron Howard
  
  

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  • Re: No Blake Edwards? - patrickU 03:30:36 07/22/05 (8)
    In Reply to: No Blake Edwards? posted by Road Warrior on July 21, 2005 at 12:53:34:

    It would be then BE´s " Victor & Victoria " of which I am very fond, particulary the first half an hour.
    
    

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    • What about "Breakfast at Tiffany´s", "Days of Wine and Roses"... ? (nt) - orejones 08:08:10 07/22/05 (1)
      In Reply to: Re: No Blake Edwards? posted by patrickU on July 22, 2005 at 03:30:36:

      
      
      

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      • Re: Yes very stylish and I love them, but I lost my heart for the poor " artists " of the first 20 minutes. nt - patrickU 09:45:29 07/22/05 (0)
        In Reply to: What about "Breakfast at Tiffany´s", "Days of Wine and Roses"... ? (nt) posted by orejones on July 22, 2005 at 08:08:10:

        nt
        
        

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    • How about S.O.B.? - Road Warrior 05:18:06 07/22/05 (5)
      In Reply to: Re: No Blake Edwards? posted by patrickU on July 22, 2005 at 03:30:36:

      To me, up there with his Pink Panther films.
      
      

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      • Re: How about S.O.B.? - patrickU 10:08:41 07/22/05 (4)
        In Reply to: How about S.O.B.? posted by Road Warrior on July 22, 2005 at 05:18:06:

        Well I do not particulary love his Pink Panther as for S.O.B, I need another shot at it.
        
        
        

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        • I can understand - Road Warrior 19:51:32 07/22/05 (3)
          In Reply to: Re: How about S.O.B.? posted by patrickU on July 22, 2005 at 10:08:41:

          your disdain for the Pink Panther series. Doesn't exactly portray French "policing" in a positive light ;-), n'est pas?
          
          

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          • Re: I can understand - patrickU 07:56:43 07/23/05 (2)
            In Reply to: I can understand posted by Road Warrior on July 22, 2005 at 19:51:32:

            You are doing me injustice, sniff.....
            BTW I ordered SOB.....

            
            Not disdain, just boring...
            
            

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            • Reporte , S'il vous plait - Road Warrior 20:08:03 07/23/05 (1)
              In Reply to: Re: I can understand posted by patrickU on July 23, 2005 at 07:56:43:

              My French is horrendous, but I think you get the idea
              
              

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              • Re: Reporte , S'il vous plait - patrickU 00:46:01 07/24/05 (0)
                In Reply to: Reporte , S'il vous plait posted by Road Warrior on July 23, 2005 at 20:08:03:

                Not so bad at all!
                I will.
                
                

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• re: favorite directors - Corndog71 06:53:28 07/21/05 (3)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  in no particular order:

  George Lucas
  Steven Spielberg
  Joss Whedon
  Richard Linklater
  Ridley Scott
  Peter Jackson
  James Cameron
  Michael Bay
  Robert Zemekis
  Michael Mann
  
  
  Rob C

  The world was made for people not cursed with self-awareness
  
  

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  • Re: re: favorite directors - patrickU 09:42:23 07/21/05 (1)
    In Reply to: re: favorite directors posted by Corndog71 on July 21, 2005 at 06:53:28:

    I never said the " Hollywood best directors " list...He-he...
    
    

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    • Re: re: favorite directors - Corndog71 14:22:21 07/21/05 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: re: favorite directors posted by patrickU on July 21, 2005 at 09:42:23:

      Don't know any non-American directors. I do like
      Luc Besson.

      
      
      Rob C

      The world was made for people not cursed with self-awareness
      
      

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  • forgot one... Kevin Smith (nt) - Corndog71 08:13:26 07/21/05 (0)
    In Reply to: re: favorite directors posted by Corndog71 on July 21, 2005 at 06:53:28:

    .
    
    Rob C

    The world was made for people not cursed with self-awareness
    
    

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• Impossible! - Harmonia 20:44:51 07/20/05 (2)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  These are personal "favorites" - my list of "great" and "greatly admired" directors would be much, much longer. (Hence Sturges'inclusion and Bergman's, Kubrick's, Eisenstein's and Tarkovsky's absence.)

  In no particular order:

  Jean Renoir
  Alfred Hitchcock
  W.F. Murnau
  Carl Dreyer
  Charles Chaplin
  Buster Keaton
  Michael Powell/Emeric Pressburger
  Yasujiro Ozu
  John Ford
  Akira Kurosawa
  Kenji Mizoguchi
  John Huston
  Preston Sturges
  Alain Resnais
  Martin Scorsese
  Peter Greenaway
  David Lynch
  Zhang Yimou
  Mike Leigh
  Peter Weir

  These folks could be on the list someday...

  Michael Winterbottom
  Alphonso Cuaron
  Darren Aronofsky
  Alejandro Innaritu
  Spike Jonze
  Christopher Nolan
  Alejandro Amenabar
  Abbas Kiarostami

  
  
  
  

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  • Re: You are just a cheater! - patrickU 00:57:32 07/21/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Impossible! posted by Harmonia on July 2, 2005 at 20:44:51:

    Ah les femmes!
    
    
    

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  • Also add... - Harmonia 20:48:01 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Impossible! posted by Harmonia on July 2, 2005 at 20:44:51:

    ...Guillermo del Toro to the list of director's on my watch list. I'm not as keen on his studio movies but I loved The Devil's Backbone.
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- - Donald 19:24:31 07/20/05 (12)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Luis Buñuel
  Alain Resnais
  Preston Sturges
  Yasujiro Ozu
  Robert Bresson
  Andrei Tarkovski
  Ingmar Bergman
  Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne
  Mikio Naruse
  Krzysztof Kieslowski
  
  
  

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  • Re: Preston Sturges! - Gee LP 06:08:15 07/22/05 (1)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- posted by Donald on July 2, 2005 at 19:24:31:

    I loved seeing Preston Sturges on the same list as Robert Bresson, Luis Bunuel, and Ingmar Bergman! Thanks, Donald!

    Barbara Stanwyck in "The Lady Eve"
    Joel McCrea trying to zip up Claudette Colbert's dress in "The Palm Beach Story"
    Everyone in "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek" ("I think his name was something like Ratskywatsky!)

    PS: When I showed my mother "Sullivan's Travels" she became very upset during the middle sequence when Sullivan finds himself in very big trouble. She began crying and said, "You just do not know...you have to be so careful...five seconds can change your life." Growing up in rural Oklahoma in the Forties and Fifites, she saw one or two things that this film strongly reminded her of.

    
    
    

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    • Re: Preston Sturges! - patrickU 07:58:25 07/23/05 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Preston Sturges! posted by Gee LP on July 22, 2005 at 06:08:15:

      I would not go so far. But I love the guy and most of his films too.
      
      

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- - patrickU 00:59:27 07/21/05 (9)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- posted by Donald on July 2, 2005 at 19:24:31:

    A very good list, I must say, with the exception of Kieslowski, his trilogy been just full of nothing, in my senses....
    
    

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    • I find the Trilogy very moving. What do you think of The Decalogue? -nt- - Donald 02:48:18 07/21/05 (1)
      In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 21, 2005 at 00:59:27:

      .
      
      

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      • Re: I find the Trilogy very moving. What do you think of The Decalogue? -nt- - patrickU 09:44:59 07/21/05 (0)
        In Reply to: I find the Trilogy very moving. What do you think of The Decalogue? -nt- posted by Donald on July 21, 2005 at 02:48:18:

        Sorry I can not say, as I saw only a part of them and too long ago.
        
        

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    • Bravo!!! Calling a spade a spade... Kieslowski´s rhetoric is nothing but emptiness wrapped up ... - orejones 01:44:52 07/21/05 (6)
      In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourite all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 21, 2005 at 00:59:27:

      ...in a flashy envelope, which is worth much more than the hot air it contains...

      Regards

      BF
      
      

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      • Rhetoric? Please clarify. -nt- - Donald 05:47:02 07/21/05 (5)
        In Reply to: Bravo!!! Calling a spade a spade... Kieslowski´s rhetoric is nothing but emptiness wrapped up ... posted by orejones on July 21, 2005 at 01:44:52:

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        • Re: Rhetoric? Please clarify. -nt- - patrickU 09:49:04 07/21/05 (0)
          In Reply to: Rhetoric? Please clarify. -nt- posted by Donald on July 21, 2005 at 05:47:02:

          I think that Bernardo told it the best possible way! I mean our view on this trilogy!
          A film that is all form without contend.
          Empty.
          But I must say that the first one did at first attrct me too. I soon realised my mistake, after the second and third part.
          So empty as the music in part one.
          
          
          

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        • Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) - orejones 07:59:43 07/21/05 (3)
          In Reply to: Rhetoric? Please clarify. -nt- posted by Donald on July 21, 2005 at 05:47:02:

          
          
          

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          • Re: Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) - Donald 18:26:25 07/21/05 (2)
            In Reply to: Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) posted by orejones on July 21, 2005 at 07:59:43:

            The trilogy is overflowing with content, though the style is perhaps strong enough to obscure it for the unobservant.
            
            

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            • Re: Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) - patrickU 03:32:24 07/22/05 (0)
              In Reply to: Re: Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) posted by Donald on July 21, 2005 at 18:26:25:

              He-he a nice vice-versa....
              
              

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            • Sure. (nt) - orejones 02:01:57 07/22/05 (0)
              In Reply to: Re: Grandiloquence without actual content... (nt) posted by Donald on July 21, 2005 at 18:26:25:

              
              
              

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors-------Sidney Lumet - Jim Campilongo 16:02:57 07/20/05 (0)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Sidney Lumet would make my top 10. I just love so many of his films! To name a few ...
  Running on Empty -The Verdict - Deathtrap- Equus- Network - Dog Day Afternoon -The Offence - The Anderson Tapes -The Hill - The Pawnbroker -The Fugitive Kind -12 Angry Men
  
  
  

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• A few of the Old Reliables - Bambi B 14:14:51 07/20/05 (1)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Patrick,

  Directors who I can usually** rely on for a rollicking good time- in no order:

  
  Eisenstein
  Murnau
  Lang
  Hitchcock
  Fellini
  Bergman
  Scorcese
  Kurosawa
  Lynch
  Tarkovsky
  Burton
  Kubrick
  Capra
  Wilder
  Reed
  Welles
  Bunuel
  Truffaut
  Godard
  Coen (Bros.)

  -there's 20 of my 10 favourites! And probably more than 2/3 of the associated movies are in black in white,..

  
  and almost directors:

  Frankenheimer
  Sayles
  Eastwood !
  Guest !

  I go through periods during which different directors appeal and others fade. At the moment, I think the finest movie ever made was "Seven Samurai" and perhaps nearly: "The third Man", but I reserve the rigfht to change this opinion after 4PM.

  **Oui, habituellement, mais nous ne pouvons pas permettre une acceptation des directeurs de film de perfection sommes deja assez arrogants!

  Salut,

  Bambi B
  
  

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  • Re: A few of the Old Reliables - patrickU 01:03:29 07/21/05 (0)
    In Reply to: A few of the Old Reliables posted by Bambi B on July 2, 2005 at 14:14:51:

    The Seven Samurai and Stagecoach are in the same " veine. "
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - padreken 10:00:31 07/20/05 (0)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  In no particular order...

  Ernst Lubitsch
  Alfred Hitchcock
  John Ford
  Frank Capra
  Stanley Kubrick
  Michael Curtiz
  John Huston
  Billy Wilder
  William Wyler
  Francis Ford Coppola

  Honorable mentions-Preston Sturges, Stanley Donen (Singing in the Rain is the most perfect musical ever) Steven Spielberg, Mel Brooks, Fritz Lang, Robert Zemeckis.
  
  

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - Audiophilander 09:47:46 07/20/05 (1)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Like most and/or all key films by...

  F.W. Murnau
  Fritz Lang
  Lord Peter Jackson
  Orson Welles
  Tim Burton
  G. W. Pabst
  Erich Von Stroheim
  Josef Von Sternberg
  James Von Cameron
  William Von Whitney (esp., in colaboration with Sir John English)

  Like some or most, but not all:
  
  Sir Charles Chaplin
  Terry Gillium
  Steven Von Spielberg
  Grand Wazoo Sam Ramey
  Sam Pekinpah
  Michael Curtiz
  John Huston
  Emporer Paul Verhoeven
  Frank Capra-(corn)
  Ingmar Bergman (...but I still prefer things blowing up)

  -and work by artists who controlled & crafted their own product, ergo:
  
  Buster Keaton (often uncredited or crafted)
  Harold Lloyd (uncredited or crafted)
  Lord Douglas Fairbanks (uncredited or crafted)
  Lady Mary Pickford (uncredited, but crafted)
  The Marx Brothers (crafted)

  Incomplete list and always subject to change, of course.

  AuPh
  
  
  

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:54:03 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by Audiophilander on July 2, 2005 at 09:47:46:

    Capra belong is the very short list, no doubt.
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - jbmcb 09:45:08 07/20/05 (3)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  In no order. Wait, it's alphabetical! :)

  Terry Gilliam
  Alfred Hitchcock
  Jean-Pierre Jeunet
  Stanley Kubrick
  Fritz Lang
  David Lynch
  Hayao Miyazaki
  Sydney Pollack
  Martin Scorsese
  Ridley Scott

  Tarantino was close to being on the list, but Jeunet knocked him off.
  /*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
  
  

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  • Just watched Rear Window on AMC for about the 20th time -nt- - jbmcb 11:09:59 07/20/05 (1)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by jbmcb on July 2, 2005 at 09:45:08:

    
    /*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
    
    

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    • Re: Just watched Rear Window on AMC for about the 20th time -nt- - patrickU 11:36:05 07/20/05 (0)
      In Reply to: Just watched Rear Window on AMC for about the 20th time -nt- posted by jbmcb on July 2, 2005 at 11:09:59:

      And I just " Stage Fright "...
      
      

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:47:31 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by jbmcb on July 2, 2005 at 09:45:08:

    Am I glad to see an " Hitch " on a list, beside mine! He-he!
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - mvwine 09:14:49 07/20/05 (2)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Bergman
  Fellini
  Allen
  Renoir
  Hitchcock
  Antonioni
  Ford
  Wilder
  Kurasawa
  Huston

  Actually, this is much harder to do than "Ten favorite movies" - There are so many directors who did one or two of my favorite movies, not a whole body of excellent work (Wenders and Coppola come to mind).
  
  In Vino Veritas
  
  

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  • I know what you mean... - Harmonia 19:27:31 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by mvwine on July 2, 2005 at 09:14:49:

    I think The Conversation, Apocalypse Now & most of the first two Godfathers are brilliant, yet I can't put Coppola in my top ten.
    
    

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:38:27 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by mvwine on July 2, 2005 at 09:14:49:

    And a lot more comes to my mind too!

    Our list is very close, save for W.Allen that I very like, particulary " Hannah and her Sisters "
    but not enough for the ten, but for the thirty....
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - Gee LP 08:50:52 07/20/05 (10)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Top 10 favorite directors...the ones I can see over and over again?

  Orson Welles
  Sam Peckinpah
  Robert Altman
  Sergei Eisenstein
  Jean Renoir
  Charles Chaplin
  Buster Keaton
  Stanley Kubrick
  Tex Avery
  Akira Kurosawa

  patrickU, you should have made it "your favorite FORTY film directors"! I can't believe I have put together a list like this without Godard! But this is my list THIS morning!

  
  
  

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:42:24 07/20/05 (9)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by Gee LP on July 2, 2005 at 08:50:52:

    Ha-ha! The same here....

    
    PS: Who is tex Avery? And what is his best that you could recommend to me?
    
    

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    • Re:Who is Tex Avery? - Gee LP 05:58:45 07/22/05 (8)
      In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 09:42:24:

      Tex Avery was a cartoon director for Warner Bros. in the Thirties and early Forties, and for MGM in the Forties and Fifties. He was nicknamed "Tex" because he was born and raised in Dallas, and came to Hollywood to work in cartoons in the mid Thirties. When hired by Warner Bros, he helped organize the group at "Termite Terrace," which included Chuck Jones and Friz Freleng and Bob Campbell. In 1940 he took a rabbit character used in two earlier cartoons and created the personality of Bugs Bunny, giving him the line "What's up, Doc?" etc. in the cartoon "A Wild Hare."

      In 1942 he moved to MGM, where he did his best work. If you have a laserdisc player I recommend the MGM laserdisc set "The Compleat Tex Avery." Here his work centered on refining the American short cartoon to what many consider its zenith, and he was a major influence on fellow MGM workers Hanna-Barbara's work on their "Tom & Jerry" series. If you have seen the "Droopy" cartoons from the Forties and early Fifties, you have seen examples of this work.

      In the Fifties he suffered a breakdown from overwork and exhaustion and when he returned to MGM, he saw that the handwriting was on the wall as far as the salad days of the short cartoon. He left MGM and after a short stint working for one last company, organized his own advertising company, making cartoon commercials. If you ever saw the bugs scatter when they heard the word "RAID?!!" you have seen more of Avery's work. In the late Sixties he was asked to animate a commercial using Bugs Bunny and was asked if he knew anything about the character!

      Using the guidelines you provided for "10 favorite directors" Avery is one of mine, regardless of the fact that he was an animation director. His cartoons are simply amazing and hold up well today, because he didn't draw them for small children...he made them for himself (his cartoons about wolves lusting after exquisitely-drawn dancing girls will prove that)!

      If you have access to programs that show cartoons of the Thirties and Forties, here are my recommendations:

      A Wild Hare (1940)
      Dumb-Hounded (1943)
      Red Hot Riding Hood (1943)
      What's Buzzin' Buzzard (1943)
      King Size Canary (1947)
      Bad Luck Blackie (1949)
      Doggone Tired (1949)
      Rural Little Riding Hood (1949) my all-time favorite Avery film!
      Rock-A-Bye Bear (1952)
      The Three Little Pups (1953)

      Here is a link below to a site with more information on Avery.

      This may not be like Victor comparing Dohzhenko to Pudovkin, but great film is great film!

      And if you have never seen an Avery cartoon, I urge you to look for them! Bug-eyed double takes, expressive use of sound effects, etc...just amazing work all the way around!

      Sorry I could not answer sooner. My internet connection is only intermittently working for the next week!

      
      
      

      • http://www.cottet.org/avery/avfilm.en.htm   (Open in New Window)

      
      

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      • a Tex Avery list that omits Screwball Squirrel?! - Rob Doorack 20:24:28 07/22/05 (2)
        In Reply to: Re:Who is Tex Avery? posted by Gee LP on July 22, 2005 at 05:58:45:

        To this day there have never been any cartoons that compare to Avery's five MGM cartoons featuring Screwball Squirrel. The star is literally insane, abrasive to the point of being unlikeable, with an annoying laugh and a nasal drip that frequently causes him to sniff loudly. 1944's Screwball Squirrel introduced him with a big slap at Disney. We first meet the very cute but realistically drawn Disneyesque Sammy Squirrel. Garish orange grotesque Screwball Squirrel arrives, and Sammy explains that the cartoon will be about Sammy and his forest friends and his fluffy tail. Screwball groans "Oh brother, not that!", lures Sammy behind a tree, and beats the crap out of him. From that point Avery dispenses with all pretense of a plot and the cartoons are non - stop Avery gags and violence. The other characters have no purpose other than to be victims of Screwball Squirrel. Avery throws away all rules of the real world too. As Screwball Squirrel himself observes, "in a cartoon anything can happen." In the fifth and last Screwball Squirrel cartoon, Lonesome Lenny , Avery defied another cartoon convention by killing the character! Anarchic to the end, the dead Screwball Squirrel gets the last word by holding up a sign that says "Sad, ain't it?"

        A short Windows Media extract of a Screwball Squirrel cartoon can be viewed at the link below.
        

        • 30 seconds of Screwball Squirrel   (Open in New Window)

        
        

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        • Re: a Tex Avery list that omits Screwball Squirrel?! - Gee LP 21:44:39 07/22/05 (1)
          In Reply to: a Tex Avery list that omits Screwball Squirrel?! posted by Rob Doorack on July 22, 2005 at 20:24:28:

          Hey...Tex did SO many great ones! You try naming just a few to give a representative sample to someone unfamiliar with his work!

          I love Sammy Squirrel! Everything Avery hated about "fuzzy-wuzzy animals"!

          Thanks for reminding about Sammy and all his friends in the forest and his cute tail....
          
          

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          • Re: a Tex Avery list that omits Screwball Squirrel?! - Rob Doorack 21:42:17 07/24/05 (0)
            In Reply to: Re: a Tex Avery list that omits Screwball Squirrel?! posted by Gee LP on July 22, 2005 at 21:44:39:

            Yeah, picking an Tex Avery "top 10" list is tough, even if you limit yourself to the 67 MGM cartoons. I'd say picking "The Best Avery Cartoon" is easier. I'd go with Little Rural Riding Hood I think. It's got to be the greatest portrayal of male lust in all of cinema, live action or animated.
            
            

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      • Re:Who is Tex Avery? - patrickU 09:53:17 07/22/05 (4)
        In Reply to: Re:Who is Tex Avery? posted by Gee LP on July 22, 2005 at 05:58:45:

        Bugs Bunny...One of my first love, sitting on a bench at school and looking with a widr open mouth...
        LD? Long sold.

        Yes you are fully right. A great film is a great film. bediede the name Walt Disney my knowledge is a desert. And why because of a ceratin arrogance and because cartoons are mostly considered as a minor art.
        Wrongly.
        Than you for the time and patience.
        
        

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        • Re: More on Avery and Disney - Gee LP 15:40:15 07/22/05 (3)
          In Reply to: Re:Who is Tex Avery? posted by patrickU on July 22, 2005 at 09:53:17:

          Well, the 7-minute-long animated short may not be the apex of film art, but who cares when they are so funny and encapsulate so much of one's culture?

          You brought up Disney. It is interesting to see how innovative Disney was in the Twenties and Thirties, and how, the minute he could make features, his shorts department began to suffer, with the innovation passing to Warner Bros, M-G-M, and, gosh, what was the name of the company that made the original "Popeye" cartoons? Oh, yeah, Max Fleischer! Just in time for Avery and the other directors I named to make their marks, because Disney never would have allowed some of the things they did in their cartoons after, say, 1933. The more successful he got, the less subversive he got.

          John Canemaker and Joe Adamson have written two very good books on Avery, and Leonard Maltin wrote an excellent overall view of the history of the American animated cartoon, if you ever have the time and inclination to pursue Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Droopy, and the Wolf, etc., in more depth.
          
          
          

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          • Re: More on Avery and Disney - patrickU 08:00:46 07/23/05 (2)
            In Reply to: Re: More on Avery and Disney posted by Gee LP on July 22, 2005 at 15:40:15:

            If you would take one book what would it be?
            
            

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            • Re: One book to choose from on Tex Avery? - Gee LP 18:58:53 07/23/05 (1)
              In Reply to: Re: More on Avery and Disney posted by patrickU on July 23, 2005 at 08:00:46:

              If you want just one book, I suggest the Maltin. It is a very good overview of American animation from the Twenties to the Sixties. His writing on Disney, Avery, etc., lays out the basics of a film genre you say your knowledge of is a "desert," and while not a deep tome, is informative and will cover all the bases.

              The Adamson book (Tex Avery, King of Cartoons) is like an expanded chapter of the Maltin book, concerning only Avery. It is a quick read, and I don't recommend it unless you find after viewing the Avery cartoons I and Rob Doorack recommend that you need more information about Avery and his work.

              The Canamaker book (Tex Avery, the MGM Years 1942-1955) is a lavish look at Avery's MGM years. Great book, with wonderful illustrations, and although it is out of print, one can purchase it used through amazon.com or other sources.

              Below is a link to the Maltin book on amazon.com to kind of give you a place to start looking for it:

              
              
              

              • http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452259932/qid=1122170109/sr=1-39/ref=sr_1_39/002-0569498-6229634?v=glance&s=books   (Open in New Window)

              
              

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              • Re: One book to choose from on Tex Avery? - patrickU 00:48:10 07/24/05 (0)
                In Reply to: Re: One book to choose from on Tex Avery? posted by Gee LP on July 23, 2005 at 18:58:53:

                What is left for me to say? But it is very kind of you. Book oredede of course.
                Merci beaucoup.
                
                

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - millen 08:37:50 07/20/05 (1)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  DeMille
  Scorsesee
  Tarantino
  Spielberg
  Cameron
  Jackson
  Forman
  Demme
  Lean
  Kubrick
  
  
  

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:43:53 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by millen on July 2, 2005 at 08:37:50:

    Kubrick....Lean...Here it goes....I should have made a twenty....
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - Lambda 08:00:07 07/20/05 (1)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Bergman
  Tati
  Antonioni
  Bresson
  Sautet
  Tarkowski
  Dryer
  Kieslowski
  Angelopoulos
  Truffaut

  Yeah, I'm a living cliché... ;)
  
  
  

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  • Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - patrickU 09:34:34 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by Lambda on July 2, 2005 at 08:00:07:

    But then who is not?
    
    

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• Roger Coreman - Bolt 07:55:28 07/20/05 (1)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Clint Eastwood
  Dario Argento
  George Lucas
  Coen Brothers (wait, did they direct or just produce?)
  Roger Coreman
  Ron Howard

  There is six that come to mind.
  
  
  

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  • Re: Roger Coreman - patrickU 09:46:01 07/20/05 (0)
    In Reply to: Roger Coreman posted by Bolt on July 2, 2005 at 07:55:28:

    Lucas? have you ever read his dialogs?
    
    

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• Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- - Jeff Starrs 06:05:14 07/20/05 (3)
  In Reply to: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by patrickU on July 2, 2005 at 05:29:54:

  Frank Capra
  David Lynch
  John Sayles
  Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein
  Alfred Hitchcock
  David Cronenberg
  Billy Wilder
  John Ford
  John Huston
  Jim Jarmusch

  ...random. I'll probably kick myself later.
  
  
  

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  • how could I have missed Lynch (n/t) -- - Bolt 07:56:37 07/20/05 (2)
    In Reply to: Re: What are your top ten favourit all time directors------- posted by Jeff Starrs on July 2, 2005 at 06:05:14:

    n/t
    
    
    

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    • Re: yeah, I missed Tim Burton & Scorcese! (nt) - Jeff Starrs 10:23:03 07/20/05 (1)
      In Reply to: how could I have missed Lynch (n/t) -- posted by Bolt on July 2, 2005 at 07:56:37:

      *
      
      

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      • Darn It, I just tried to reply here and started a whole new "LYNCH" post above :( - Bolt 20:33:02 07/20/05 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: yeah, I missed Tim Burton & Scorcese! (nt) posted by Jeff Starrs on July 2, 2005 at 10:23:03:

        I dont expect much action with that one.
        
        

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