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In Reply to: Re: Chivalrious muderers and petty pucky sentimentalism posted by Dmitry on August 06, 2000 at 00:48:19:
Just quick for now, will try to comeback again.1. Will try to dig out some numbers.
2. Not ready yet to start a war over the A-bomb, but one never knows
3. Will try. Did you see the story on Khatyn vs. Katyn?
http://www.go.com/?win=_search&sv=M6&qt=katyn&oq=&url=http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p230_FitzGibbon.html&ti=Khatyn+vs+Katyn&top=
Follow Ups:
I was thinking about the "therapeutic" usage of an A-bomb and the slaughther of 10,000 to 15,000 Polish officers in Katyn by the Soviets that you'd mentioned. Perhaps it was as "therapeutic" as the A-bomb you mentioned. An army without command is a dead army. So, 15,000 dead Poles against 100,000 dead Japanese. What's more humain then?
I really don't want to start a discussion over an atomic bomb either. I have a point of view on that, which is probably pretty solid, but another aspect is always interesting to read. As you might've guessed I am something of a pacifist, but I take interest in reading war stories and always go into the Medeival arms and armour wing of the Met.
I read the article about Kh vs. K and to my eyes it's nothing more than yet another revisionist paper. Appearance and disappearance of both places on the Soviet-era maps(of 1950s-70s to boot) doesn't prove or disprove anything. Soviet cartography was as politicised and incorrect as anything. Actually, Soviet maps were notoriously inaccurate. I read several accounts of geologists and geographers doing field research with these maps, noting their tremendous shift, compression and inaccuracy(purposeful, I suppose). One geologist wrote that all the major reserch was done using western maps which, after the field research was over, were to be returned to you know who. Add the freaky secrecy of the Soviet era and you get this article, based on nothing more than speculative and overimaginative thinking.
I am not sure about your negative reaction to that article. While it is not that everyone should just take it at face value, using the word "revisionist" is in my view uncalled for. Surely you are not saying that there is something sacred or God given about the Soviet history. Nothing in the story strikes me as implausible. If anything, many new things about it are what I would call 'discoveries'.
Victor, I'm not sure if the article was a genuine piece of historical reporting. I know that the Soviets killed those people in Katyn', no dispute here; Now, as far as the Khatyn' fires are concerned I really need more than a few lines on the internet to prove the hoax, if there were any.
Peace.
No argument here. I myself am curious too and will try to find out more. So far I spoke to several people, usually well informed, and got nowhere.What do YOU know about Kh?
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