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In Reply to: Well, at least you're beginning to understand what this forum's about: posted by tinear on August 7, 2005 at 13:19:16:
"One of the greatest commentaries on American culture ever filmed; of course, it took a foreigner to do it."Von Trier has never spent anytime on our fair shores due to his fear of flying. So his "commentary" on the American culture is learned from other than personnel experience. Which is always dangerous. Second, his dislike of American is well published. His condemnation of the America, while never criticising his native countries' profiting from the Nazis during the second World War, nor his adopted countries complicity with the Nazis during that same war bespeaks the colored glasses he looks through. Which, in the end, leaves us with someone who has little experience from which he criticises, and one who appears to criticise America for what it is, rather than what it does. If he was in any way concerned with what it does, then he would likewise comment on the foibles of his native and adopted countries, and their very checkered past.
I thought the film was good, though not "brilliant." Kidman turned in a very good performance, as she generally does.
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Gibbon, Rome.
I know typing may not be your strong suit, but how about some response beyond Gibbon, Rome? I like Von Trier the film maker. But Von Trier the social commentator leaves much to be desired. Except by people who are predisposed to swallow his uneducated prejudices. Odd, whenever Von Trier apologists are confronted with their heroes' questionable experience and education, taken in conjunction with his clear hyprocisy, used as a foundation to make the commentaries he makes, particularly about America, they, and he, are silent.What would you think about a visible commentator who has never visited, oh, say, Brazil, commenting negatively upon it's political system, their economic system, etc., and their only "knowledge" is learned from books, movies, and talking with people who are like minded? Your likely answer: depends if I agree with them. Oh yea, Gibbon, Rome.
read Gibbon.
You want me to do the work in answering your post? Rather than provide an original thought, you would rather have me read someone else's thoughts, then pass those of as your response? I suspect that such intellectual laziness is precisely what Von Trier looks for when he wants to pass off his uneducated ramblings. Here is an original idea: come up with your own ideas, opinions, and thoughts, rather than regurgitating someone else's. You complain about other's posts, but at least they are original, not recycled from someone else's work.
You want me to do the work to understand your intellectually lazy response? Have you no original thoughts of your own? You point me to thoughts created and drafted by another, then claim those thoughts as representive of your own? I was wrong. You as the subject of an expose' on plagiarism would only yield a obvious result, the scope of which would be only as wide as threads you have contributed to over the last three days. People with little critical thought of their own are the same people Von Triers appeals to. Much has been explained.
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