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In Reply to: Re: Confessions like this are best kept as dirty, dark secrets. posted by rico on August 8, 2005 at 12:07:10:

The Others, The Incredibles, Identity, Dogville are also excellent in their field.
Since Kidman is in two of them, I'd assume you don't appreciate her work, in general. Still, the Others is a powerful ghost film---the match of any in the genre. The relationship with her children was poweful and the underpinning for a cerebral thriller with heart.
Identity was a superb scary summer blast. Entertaining and edge of your seat thrills, well-acted, and very well edited. Kept everyone guessing until the final gasp.
The Incredibles raised the bar for kid entertainment that adults also could appreciate: humor, intelligent action, and good character development all done in ground-breaking animation.
Dogville is for those that appreciate a deep story, perhaps especially those who appreciate Greek drama. Several steps above the intellectual depth of most cinema and possessing the brilliance of first-rate theater in its immediacy, character depth, acting, and dialogue.
Yes, yes, it is an allegory, but so is much of dramatic art.

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Re: On the contrary - rico 07:59:58 08/09/05 (0)
I love Nicole Kidman's work, I just didn't like the movies I listed.
Re: You're nuts, that's the only answer. - Jack G 04:46:38 08/09/05 (3)
> > > Still, the Others is a powerful ghost film---the match of any in the genre. < < <
Nonsense, it was a grossly overrated one trick pony. Once you figured out the "trick", which for me was about 1/3-1/2 way into the movie, it lost its charm. It certainly didn't have any scares. I love ghost flicks, but I just couldn't wait for this one to be over with. The Others is close to the bottom of my list of ghost stories. I prefered The Sixth Sense, which also used the same trick, but at least was watchable even after you figured it out.
Jack
- So, there are two nuts here? - tinear 05:21:40 08/09/05 (2)
  ;-((
  A one-trick pony? Hardly.
  The beauty of the pacing, like a nocturne, the ever deepening sadness of Kidman, the realization that her marriage had ended and she was alone with the children...a beautiful picture of all-consuming love. So what if you figured it out, she hadn't and that's what drives the picture. It's not a police thriller, you know? Nor a detective story. The suspense of trying to figure the picture out almost was a McGuffen.
  The children and the servants, I thought, all turned in wonderful performances, as well.
  Shock and surprise, I'm trying to say, aren't the hallmark of a successful film of this genre. As Hitch said, any fool can jump from behind a door and scare you.
  The Sixth Sense was a fine movie but Bruce Willis ain't no Nicole Kidman-quality actor. Direction? Fuggetaboutit. The Others used a scalpel wherein the SS used a bludgeon.
  - Are You a Nicole Kidman Groupie? Warning- Major Spoilers - Jack G 06:24:03 08/09/05 (1)
    Yes, the preformances were good, but the plot wasn't.
    > > > The beauty of the pacing, like a nocturne, the ever deepening sadness of Kidman, the realization that her marriage had ended and she was alone with the children...a beautiful picture of all-consuming love. < < <
    She was a deeply disturbed woman who killed her children, and herself. So much for all consuming love. She wasn't very bright either. She didn't get the hint when she met her DEAD Husband?
    Good preformances in a bad movie, still gives a bad movie.
    > > > It's not a police thriller, you know? Nor a detective story. < < <
    It was supposed to be a ghost story, but it wasn't much of anything really. I really expected to like this movie, but just couldn't.
    > > > Shock and surprise, I'm trying to say, aren't the hallmark of a successful film of this genre. < < <
    And boredom is?
    I don't generally go for shock, but some form of tension or suspense is generally considered a good trait in ghost stories.
    > > > Bruce Willis ain't no Nicole Kidman-quality actor. < < <
    Absolutely. As a rule, I'm not fond of him. However, SS was a far better movie as a whole, at least it had some tension to it.
    > > > The Others used a scalpel < < <
    The Others used anesthesia.
    Jack
    - It's my responsibility to furnish you an argument not - tinear 09:22:10 08/09/05 (0)
      understanding. (Thanks to Sam Johnson).
      Look at what each director has done besides the two films. Get it yet?

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