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In Reply to: Re: The Sting posted by tinear on August 14, 2005 at 16:22:29:
Although I enjoy reading your posts Tinear - I disagree with most of your views and your recent post is no different.
C'mon - I thought Charles Durning was an angry vengeful force to contend with . I also found Robert Shaw very menacing . A murderous time bomb waiting to go off. For me ,one of my all-time favorite R.S. roles . Not "cutesy" at all. But it seems you find "massive calves and thighs" more disturbing then good old-fashioned Hollywood bad guys!I've listed some of favorite heist films (off the top my head)...
"The Killing Of a Chinese Bookie"
"Thief"
"The Killing"
"Asphalt Jungle"
"The Hot Rock"
"The French Connection"
"The Taking Of Pelham One - Two - Three"
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I agree with your list of heist films, btw.
Your point about Durning and Shaw in The Sting is well-taken, however, it isn't the actors I found lacking but the whimsical direction and that almost childish camaraderie and banter between Newman and Redford that undermined what could have been a more hard-hitting and therefore more effective thriller.
Newman, especially, around this time, began to "grin" way too much and go, well, "cutesy."
Another example was his character in Cool Hand Luke. That egg-eating contest stuff was way over the top Hollywood crap and the Aw-shucks blonde male bimbo guy (Kennedy?) who had earlier punched the shit out of Luke became this cuddly big lapdog. Yuck.
That's another film that couldn't be dark enough because women wouldn't stand it: it had to be cutesy to fit the Hollywood formula.
I like more verisimilitude in my films, at least to consider them excellent films as opposed to good entertainment, which these films all are.
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I thought about and you make a good point -it's more of a drug smuggle then a heist.
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