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messaging.
Sex: Bad.
Those who engage in sex: they'll repent and realize its shallowness.
What a bore.
Follow Ups:
That wasn't the message at all.Let's take a look at the other three guys.
One of them is completely hung up on an ex that moved to get away from him and finally comes out of his depression by hooking up with a virtual stranger.
One of them picks up no one during the film until he helps himself to the book store girl when the main guy leaves her in the tub.
One of them fucks around and realizes that he'd messed up and does actually love his girlfriend when she dumps him for cheating.
Though it's a revealing look into your sub(un?)conscious bias', none of that adds up to what you're imagining the film is saying -- unless you think that fucking around on your significant other, getting dumped and realizing you truly love her is simply "Christian" moralizing.
"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
The three sexually active guys all, after agonzing personal experiences, commiserate that maybe celibacy ain't so bad after all?
The virgin, instead of being portrayed as a loser with some serious neuroses, is just a guy who... has never been laid.
If you missed all the speechifying and moralizing about how wonderful "waiting" was (is), and how glorious his life now is--- while the lives of his horny-fucker friends went down in well-deserved flames--- I can't help you.
Basic theme, which hit you over the head like a cartoon club: sex before marriage bad, celibacy good.
My friend's teenage girl says in her group it's said more succinctly, "No rang, no thang."
BTW, glad you're ok after that hiking episode. Reminds me of how lucky I was in Bolivia and Peru. I did lots of vigorous hiking above 15-thousand feet but was in my 20s and early 30s. Good thing, too, as there was NO medical help (except, maybe, for a shaman) for hundreds of miles (nope, no helicopters, or even decent wheeled transpo).
Great pics, too...
Sorry... I have to agree with everything Analog Scott said in his reply to this post. Methinks you are over-reaching here. Or, perhaps, just trying to incite ;-)I would love to hike/trek in/visit Bolivia and Peru and the high desert in Chile and Patagonia. I've never been to South America and it may have to be next when I travel outside of the US again.
I'd been up over 18,000 feet in the past with no problems but, like you that was late 20's early 30's.
"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
"The three sexually active guys all, after agonzing personal experiences, commiserate that maybe celibacy ain't so bad after all?"
I guess we didn't see the same movie. I nevr saw that. I do remeber one of them hooking up with the sex freak. yeah he was considering celibacy. not
"The virgin, instead of being portrayed as a loser with some serious neuroses, is just a guy who... has never been laid."
Are we talking about the guy with a half million dollar toy collection. a bicycle instead of a car and an Asia poster? Noooo he wasn't portrayed as a loser. LMAO. He looked amazingly hip. Oh yeah, he was a stock clerk at a crap electronics store. Way cool. Can't imagine why he never got laid.
"If you missed all the speechifying and moralizing about how wonderful "waiting" was (is), and how glorious his life now is--- while the lives of his horny-fucker friends went down in well-deserved flames--- I can't help you."
I gues you can't help us. All I saw was a guy who wanted to get laid but after a multitude of failed attempts built up so much angxiety that he was just avoiding it. Did you forget that the guy was embarrassed about it? Did you forget that a room full of geeks laughed at the idea of a 40 year old virgin? Did you get any of the jokes?
"Basic theme, which hit you over the head like a cartoon club: sex before marriage bad, celibacy good."
Nope, you didn't get the jokes.
"My friend's teenage girl says in her group it's said more succinctly, 'No rang, no thang.'"
What movie did you see? It wasn't 40 yer old virgin.
Even if one picks up one or morph one into own liking, it's probably writer's attempt to save it from being crass.Message I got from the movie: just ask questions. Hahaha.
but the one I saw was pretty damned funny with a variety of themes and a multitude of jokes. Christian propaganda? I think not. One of the bluest movies I have ever seen. Those guys all come out o sketch comedy and are about as far from being christian right wingers as can be.
I hope you see this and the monastery hasn't revoked your keyboard privileges. I'll grant you hyperbole rights and try and take the rest of your post more seriously.
You seemed to miss the propaganda. All the buddies were shown to be shallow and realize their evil, sinful ways. You did stay awake that far, right?
And you did understand the basic premise that a guy healthily can function until the age of forty, though he has a powerful sex drive (you noticed the woody in the mornings, or did you think it was a backing up toilet that shot him in the face?) and DOESN'T masturbate, and will then find a babe waiting for him that finds such infantile behavior... appealing?
This movie didn't rise above sitcom humor, with the same jokes (such as those featured in the interchangeable scenes in the audio store) told over and over ad nauseum.
If it makes you think you have a future, I can see why you liked it so much. ;-)
"I hope you see this and the monastery hasn't revoked your keyboard privileges. I'll grant you hyperbole rights and try and take the rest of your post more seriously."No hyperbole was used. Sorry, I don't watch porn. Just not my thing. As non-porn movies go this was one of the bluest movies I have ever seen.
"You seemed to miss the propaganda."
I think you are seeing propaganda that just isn't there.
" All the buddies were shown to be shallow and realize their evil, sinful ways. You did stay awake that far, right?"
I was awake throughout but the buddies were anything but shallow in so far as one can expect fom a sketch comedy oriented group of players. They were cartoonish but that comes with the territory.
"And you did understand the basic premise that a guy healthily can function until the age of forty, though he has a powerful sex drive (you noticed the woody in the mornings, or did you think it was a backing up toilet that shot him in the face?) and DOESN'T masturbate, and will then find a babe waiting for him that finds such infantile behavior... appealing?"
You are confusing a comic premise with a message. There in lies your problem. It was a comedy not a morality play.
"This movie didn't rise above sitcom humor, with the same jokes (such as those featured in the interchangeable scenes in the audio store) told over and over ad nauseum."
You are entitled to that opinion about the quality of humor. I disagree with it but the level of humor is subjective. As to the variety, you are simply mistaken. There were a wide range of jokes both stylistically and in subject matter.
"If it makes you think you have a future, I can see why you liked it so much. ;-)"
Now that was a crap joke. I see why you think it wasn't so good. ;-)
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"blue movie" has a definite meaning and it is porn.
Still, even though you are incapable of using the term correctly, that necessarily doesn't mean your assertion is wrong. But it is.
Hollywood puts out any number of movies every year with "bluer" dialogue, a most recent example being "Bad Santa." And BS had a lot more explicit sex scenes, too. In fact, INNUMERABLE Hollywood movies did, and just this year alone.
And (sorry, can't resist)... uh, comedies can have "messages" or morals. Probably more effective because a person's guard is down.
You got hit over the head so much with this movie's message it numbed you. Ok, time for you to go back and play with YOUR action toy collection.
"'blue movie' has a definite meaning and it is porn.
Still, even though you are incapable of using the term correctly, that necessarily doesn't mean your assertion is wrong."
I sugget you step down from the soapbox and get your facts straight. Here is what the aol dictionary says about the meaning of "blue"
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Main Entry: 1blue Pronunciation: 'blüFunction: adjectiveInflected Form(s): blu·er; blu·estEtymology: Middle English, from Old French blou, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German blAo blue; akin to Latin flavus yellow1 : of the color blue
2 a : BLUISH b : discolored by or as if by bruisingc : bluish gray
3 a : low in spirits : MELANCHOLY b : marked by low spirits : DEPRESSING
4 : wearing blue
5 of a woman : LEARNED, INTELLECTUAL
6 : PURITANICAL
7 a : PROFANE, INDECENTb : OFF-color, risqué
8 : of, relating to, or used in blues
- blue·ly adverb
- blue·ness noun
- blue in the face : extremely exasperated Pronunication Key
"profane, risque and indecent" is what it says. No mention of porn anywhere. So mow maybe *you* can start understanding the term correctly. No charge for the education, this time.
" But it is.
Hollywood puts out any number of movies every year with "bluer" dialogue, a most recent example being "Bad Santa." And BS had a lot more explicit sex scenes, too. In fact, INNUMERABLE Hollywood movies did, and just this year alone."
The bottom line is that, like the quality of the humor, the blueness of any given movie is subjective. I found this movie to be one of the bluest ones I've ever seen. Bad Santa is up there too. Bad Santa OTOH did not spend nearly as much time dealing with sex in such raw terms as did 40 year old virgin. For you to argue with my opinion is really quite absurd. It is *my* opinion regardless of *your* opinion.
"And (sorry, can't resist)... uh, comedies can have "messages" or morals."
Indeed they can but it seems you didn't actually understand the meaning of my post. I didn't say comedies can't have messages or morals. I said you seem to be confusing a comedic premise with a message or moral stance.
" Probably more effective because a person's guard is down."
How can it be effective when it isn't even there? Do you know who these guys are that made this film? Are you familiar with their work? Calling this movie Christian right wing anti sex propaganda is like calling Life of Brian a pro Christian movie. What is going through your mind that you believe the makers of this film were trying to get people to think sex is bad and act accordingly? How clueless does one have to be to come up with that ridiculous idea?
"You got hit over the head so much with this movie's message it numbed you."
Are you one of those guys who is obsessed with conspiracy theories? Maybe you should look into the film makers' backgrounds to see if the 700 club sponsered this movie. Oops if you did that you'd find out these guys are sketch comedy players with largely liberal beliefs and have spent many a sketch on making fun of right wing religious views. Dude, the whole movie came about with these guys working on a sketch idea about guys sitting around a table talking about their freakiest sexual experiences and one guy has nothing to offer so he adlibs a bunch of patehtic nonsensical made up experiences. That scene is in the movie. Hardly a master plan to get out a message that sex is bad. If there is a message it is that bad sex is funny.
" Ok, time for you to go back and play with YOUR action toy collection."
Idiot, any collector knows that you keep them in the box. You really weren't paying attntion to the movie were you? You got so caught up in your conspiracy theory that you missed a good movie. Watch JFK again and get your fix.
...the question has been answered by example.clark
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have no sense of humor; b) you cannot seem to understand that comedies indeed may have messages; c) this one had one as subtle as the object with which your skull came into contact at some point in your life rendering you unable to cogitate (look up "blue movie" next time, ace).
I especially like when a poster defers to the "you can't argue opinions" white flag. As Billy Bob would say, "What the fuck are YOU arguing about then, asshole?"
Now, that's Billy Bob's opinion. I don't mean, in any way, to suggest that what you post is as solid and substantial as a turd.
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And I laughed my fool head off, despite myself.clark
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