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In Reply to: I must disagree with you on "2010" posted by dwill123 on October 6, 2005 at 15:18:03:
A very nice followup to an almost unfollowupable film. A serious attempt, with good acting and a pretty plausible story line (all things considered). Even a quite tender moment when "Dave" appeared to his dying mother. What did he say? Something wonderful is going to happen? And yes, the cold war tensions were very realistically played out. Damned if the climax didn't deliver. Very satisfactory, plus we got to see the great Roy Scheider. We actually bought this DVD and watch it from time to time.
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I agree that "2010" had some good acting: Scheider made some brilliant moment out of some trite dialogue.[The probe sent to look at possible life in a crater on Europa has just shot past them at incredible speed. The inference is the probe did not shoot itself at Jupiter to amuse itself]:
Russian guy: O.K. Vat do YOU thindck it waz?
Pause, Cut to Scheider casually leaning on a nuclear reactor.
Scheider: A warning.
And I liked the Helen Mirren character too- well underplaying the trite political dialogue. I'm not an expert, but her incomprehensible Russian was good incomprehnesible Russian.
The Lithgow character and Russian counterpart weren't quite so subtle:
[Russian guy and Lithgow have floated over from the Russian ship to the ol 2001 ship- now a giant spinning cosmic hambone. This floating over was a scary thing to do]:
Russian Guy: I was scarezdd first time I'm doingziz 2 .
Lithgow: How many times have you done it?
{ba-ba-BA bum!}
Russian guy: This was my first time.
But, I really hated the mere fact that this movie did intend to answer the questions posed by "2001".
It was the emotional sparceness and the cold, faceless mystery of the monolith, the unexplained screaming when it was on the Moon. The monolith- as it symbolizes technology and it's relation to small "c" creation- should remain ultimately a mystery- and it's true depths unknown.
To have ol whozits come back and drag us in bits through the explication of the recapitulation of the backstory flashback plotpoints is a solution that doesn't even fool a Bambi ! Weren't there several series in the US with ghosts and/or angels fluttering around helping everyone- no doubt giving wise guidance through difficult home refinancing?
There are some questions that completely lose their elegance when answered- and this reflects back on the origianal and makes it seem simplistic- oh the monolith was some spaceship that was bringing life to colonise Europa and is clever eough to compress Jupiter until it becomes a star?
But, it was never answered- the critical point that we all now must know: Who bought the furniture in old Dave Bowman's room with the wall to wall floor lighting?
Hey! Road Warrior- Wait!- Coming to a theatre near you!, "2032: The Search for Petrol" And Mel Gibson will hurtle down dusty Australian roads in a RHD 2005 Mustang with a big supercharger and spikes on the front- and swinging a chain.
Cheers,Bambi B
Yes, they did try to answer many of 2001's "best left alone" questions. But I still think it was an admirable attempt, given the stature (quite desreved IMHO) of the first one. It could have been laughably awful. As it is, I gave it *** out of ****
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Hey, R.W., can an unfollowupable film, one that really stinks (not "2001"), be considered bellyupable? And that reminds me of somebody--was it Johnny Carson as Aunt Blabby?--in a comedy bit trying to buy something from someone else who admonishes him to up his offer. The buyer's response: "Up yours."
ya make a perfect unfollowupable film and think, Yea! No way they can make a sequel. But no, they get around the unfollowupableness by cheating w/a freekin prequel. BTW, Batman Begins doesn't qualify as all the Batman movies were followupable.
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Agreed. Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever seen a preekin' frequel.
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