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In Reply to: Why must everyone mention so prominently the weight loss posted by tinear on November 2, 2005 at 06:40:32:
"DeNiro lost x lbs. for Raging Bull. Whoopee."Actually, I believe that he gained the weight for Raging Bull. But the real point is that gaining or loosing weight quickly is is not insignificant. How many people have difficulty loosing weight? Some never do loose the weight. Consider, too, that an actor or actress cannot film another film which requires a more slender physique until the weight is taken off. This is particularly significant for an actress such as Renee Zellweger. I am not a big fan of her's, but she cannot loose the weight she gained for the Bridget Jones' films overnight, and most of her roles require her to be slender, which means that other roles are on hold until the weight is off. And loosing weight requires discipline, particularly when you do not have months to either take off or gain the weight. I am not sure the Jenny Craig diet provides the results the actor needs in such a short period of time. That requires disclipline most of us do not have.
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award of the year.
One can be disciplined and a terrible actor. How much discipline does it take to sculpt Ahhnee's or Sly's bodies?
How about the courage of all these aging actors repeatedly going under the knife to maintain more youthful looks?
How many hours each day did Charlize spend under the makeup artist's fingers for "Monster"?
Who cares?
It's the performance that matters and not the hype of the studio in showing how "committed" the actor is and how much sacrifice.
The guy who wakes up at four a. m. to drive through icy, dark streets to a minimum wage job... now THAT'S commitment and discipline.
Sounds like there is a socialist in our midst. I think that Chavez has a place just for you in his government. Be careful, though, there is no quitting.How much discipline does it take to sculpt Arnold's body? Well, more than you or I have, because, despite the rewards, neither of us have done so. Why? If there was no discipline involved, then us schlepps would have their bodies. Sounds like the old adage that it easier to do when you watch it done, as opposed to doing it yourself. Perhaps you can educate us on your similar accomplishments. Sure, anyone can hit a ninety mile per hour baseball. Until they try to hit the ball.
Discipline to get up at 4:00 a.m. for a minimum wage job? Perhaps you should check your stats, because, statistically, as a percentage of the United States work force, very few people are working minimum wage jobs. A fact which always brings a smile to my face when I hear Democrats pontificating about increasing the minimum wage. Sounds good, but has no real effect. Perhaps you have bought into the propaganda. Or perhaps if those relatively few adult folks who work minimum wage jobs (which are usually high school kids, and kids with summer jobs) had discipline and committment, they would not be working minimum wage jobs.
The overstatment of the year is to compare sculpting Arnold or Sly with an aging (or even young) actor going under the knife, or sitting in the make-up chair. DeNiro gaining significant weight is not the same as sitting in the make-up chair, and I never suggested it was. You wrote about the make-up chair in your response, not in your original post. If you can not see the obvious difference, then you obviously cannot understand the difference, no matter how simplistic the explanation. Or do you prefer to set up strawman arguments because only by doing so can you win the debate?
I do not recall much studio hype relative to DeNiro's weight in Raging Bull, which, as I recall, was anything but a commercial film, which are the films the studios hype. His performance was noted because it delivered the acting goods, as did Theron's performance in Monster. Their weight gain was in service to their craft, not a replacement for it. Had those performances not been superlative, then no one would have cared about the weight gain, because the films would have gone nowhere, except to the dustbin of film history.
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