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In Reply to: Don't rub it in! posted by Victor Khomenko on October 07, 2000 at 06:46:07:
Haven't seen Gerard's version, but I saw the old one with Jean Marais a couple of months ago.
There's also a Russian one with Avilov(pretty good)
BTW, have you seen "Gospodin Oformitel'" aka "Mr.Designer" with him? Blew my mind when I was 17 when I saw it first. Still watch it once a year or so.
Speaking of swords and Depardeu-the first 3 or 4 minutes of Colonel Chabert are mesmerizingly frightening.
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***Haven't seen Gerard's version, but I saw the old one with Jean Marais a couple of months ago.I have not seen that one in a looooooooooooooong time. How was it? Where did you even get it?
***There's also a Russian one with Avilov(pretty good)
You mean Victor Avilov? I only know his name - is he good?
***BTW, have you seen "Gospodin Oformitel'" aka "Mr.Designer" with him? Blew my mind when I was 17 when I saw it first. Still watch it once a year or so.
You are now giving away your age. No one can posibly be this young...
Sigh...
No, I don't really know him, are his movies worth renting?
***Speaking of swords and Depardeu-the first 3 or 4 minutes of Colonel Chabert are mesmerizingly frightening.
I missed that one - and it sounds like a good movie, judging by the director and crew. Will put it on my list.
Thanks for the recommendation and get your explorer ready - the weekend is almost over.
The Jean Marais Monte Cristo is available at most Russian video/book stores here.
Avilov is a character actor, sort of like Pete Postlethwaite
(can't picture him in just any film...)
I don't know if you will like the "Gn.Oformitel'" , but I recommend it for it's unusual premise. He's perfect in that film.Chabert I would watch - haven't seen any bad Ardant films. She's quite an actress; I can't even think of her American equivalent. There's something about French actresses - the way they carry themselves, the sophistication, the stature, I don't know.
In Chabert's first minutes you will see plenty of swords and men killed by them and your collection will acquire a new metaphysical meaning.:))I think Szabo is a near genius and Mephisto is a film of that caliber. Have you noticed that none of his films ever won an Oscar, weren't even nominated for one...
Incidentally Brandauer played in a Soviet film "Detskii Sad", directed by Evtushenko(whom I have a hard time digesting).
Oh, my age-
"...I grow old, I grow old,
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled...":))Sadly, I will be 30 this December 10th...
***The Jean Marais Monte Cristo is available at most Russian video/book stores here.
Avilov is a character actor, sort of like Pete Postlethwaite
(can't picture him in just any film...)
I don't know if you will like the "Gn.Oformitel'" , but I recommend it for it's unusual premise. He's perfect in that film.OK, OK, already, I'll check, honest!
***Chabert I would watch
Yep, sounds like a no-brainer to me.
***- haven't seen any bad Ardant films.
I suspect you enjoyed the "Ridicule". But I am not really trying to recall any bad ones. My wife is the biggest fan of hers. She (Fanny, not my wife) apparently started pretty late.
***She's quite an actress; I can't even think of her American equivalent. There's something about French actresses - the way they carry themselves, the sophistication, the stature, I don't know.
I think you DO. Traditionally the Europeans actors start with those silly things called education, training and expectations (perhaps this is why Fanny did not rush into it - she would look out of place in a "Friday the 143th"). Here we have the endless parade of bimbo's and idiots like Leonardo. Usually they start "taking acting classes" AFTER they already have made it in few flicks and slept with most of Hollywood.
***In Chabert's first minutes you will see plenty of swords and men killed by them and your collection will acquire a new metaphysical meaning.:))At $2.50 that sounds like a true bargain. BTW, the movies prop swords often are offered for sale, and some folks buy them. So one can buy the telescoping stage sword with paint dispencer and then to proceed surprising his dinner guests - ala Marchello in the Henry IV.
***I think Szabo is a near genius and Mephisto is a film of that caliber. Have you noticed that none of his films ever won an Oscar, weren't even nominated for one...
Incidentally Brandauer played in a Soviet film "Detskii Sad", directed by Evtushenko(whom I have a hard time digesting).If you can't, you should see how my wife reacts to him. Me, I am kind of neutral, he doesn't bother me much and I think his early appearances on the cultural scene did help to create the atmosphere of openness, even if he, himself, was an opportunist.
***Oh, my age-
"...I grow old, I grow old,
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled...":))***Sadly, I will be 30 this December 10th...
I suspect you are working on your wish list. Take it from me, it only gets better from there.
Victor,
I haven't seen "Ridicule" but I saw the "Woman Next Door" with her and Depardieu. I also remember a few years ago when I was in Paris there were dozens of billboards tooting the theatrical production of the "Pedale Douce" with Pierre Richard and possibly Ardant(I know she was in the film adaptation of the play as well).
You are so obviously right about the "schooling" of Hollywood actors. I suggested to my brother going to the Lee Strasberg academy because it was a good way for him to stop going to Russian restaurants and getting into fights in LA. He took classes there for close to a year, and studied with some people who were already making films.
After that he had one small role in some independant film(didn't get paid) and a main part in some ins.co. commercial. When he told me how much he got paid for one day's work - my jaw dropped(good thing I'm a dentist - fixed it myself),I'm not going to give you the number but it was A LOT!
I just got 2 video tapes - Agonia and Pepel and Almaz(Ashes & Diamonds). I'm watching the latter. Will report as soon as...
***I haven't seen "Ridicule"I am pretty sure you will love it, it is quite entertaining.
***but I saw the "Woman Next Door" with her and Depardieu.
That one I have mixed emotions about. At any rate, a good movie to see, almost a must see.
***I also remember a few years ago when I was in Paris there were dozens of billboards tooting the theatrical production of the "Pedale Douce" with Pierre Richard and possibly Ardant(I know she was in the film adaptation of the play as well).
Have not seen this one, I believe it was never released here - right?
***You are so obviously right about the "schooling" of Hollywood actors. I suggested to my brother going to the Lee Strasberg academy because it was a good way for him to stop going to Russian restaurants and getting into fights in LA. He took classes there for close to a year, and studied with some people who were already making films.
After that he had one small role in some independant film(didn't get paid) and a main part in some ins.co. commercial. When he told me how much he got paid for one day's work - my jaw dropped(good thing I'm a dentist - fixed it myself),I'm not going to give you the number but it was A LOT!Yes, I can imagine, although the life of young actors is usually full of tables, and few auditions... it is tough.
***I just got 2 video tapes - Agonia and Pepel and Almaz(Ashes & Diamonds). I'm watching the latter. Will report as soon as...
Which Agonia is that? The Russian one?
Pepel is one of my all-times favorites, so I would be very curious to hear your reaction. Of course, I saw it when it was released, so it was much, much more pertinent then. Hard to predict how it would sit today with the Manhattan crowd.
Did you know that Wajda also made the move called Ashes, about the Polish officers joining Napoleon in 1812? A very interesting movie as well.
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