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In Reply to: "The Godfather" posted by rico on November 29, 2005 at 07:42:10:
Do you feel better about yourself and your country? Or about your fellow human, in general?
Whether he meant to or not, Scorscese has branded Italian-Americans.
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"Whether he meant to or not, Scorscese has branded Italian-Americans."Really? Why is it that liberals always seem to think that individuals are powerless. My sister married into an Italian family. In New York, no less. Funny, everytime I visit with them, they do not appear to be suffering feelings of being "branded". Perhaps this "branding" is a South American Italian thing? Or perhaps, historically, Italians and Sicilians were organized crime? Or did Hillary's rightwing conspiracy rewrite history to impugn Italian Americans? Or perhaps you are projecting your own prejudices and easily shaped mind onto others? Yea, I think the latter.
up the crime aspect of Italian heritage, forgetting all the rest. Sure, it peaked in the fifties for a very good reason: after that, JFK's work had crippled (though not eliminated) the Mob.
African-Americans have a similar bone of contention about depictions of them in gang films and that similar argument also has merit. Sure, you see Af-Ams in films holding respectable jobs, but in films they star in, it's invariably cops or robbers.
Moreover, I also dislike the continuing portrayal of the Holocaust: just about every script one could imagine has been filmed but they keep on comin'. Without a Palestinian-Israeli conflict one wonders how many less would have been made ("see... we were victims, too!").
Hollywood likes stereotypes, it wallows in them.
I imagine when the geezer generation dies off these things will pass. They certainly don't reflect modern society.
For some, their politics clouds their ability to objectively view, in this case, a film. For example, a liberal, those who generally look to the government, or an entity with similar scope, to right what they perceive to be socities wrongs, may feel that a group has been wrongly "branded", and that the group is in need of protection. Maybe by a caped crusader who is not part of the group. On the other hand, a more conversative person generally believes in the power and freedom of the individual to guide their own ship. They probably support the idea the Italian Americans are individuals capable of going about their daily lives without feel a stigma upon them by a film or series of films.
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> Whether he meant to or not, Scorscese has branded Italian-Americans.I assume you're talking about Goodfellas/Scorscese, or Godfather/Coppola.
No, I think Al Capone did most of that. Go to the internet movie database and check out all the mafia movies and TV shows before the Godfather. They peaked in the early 50's, the Godfather just resurrected the popularity of those types of shows. While you're there type in "Mafia" and check out all the Italian TV shows and movies on the topic.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
...if you asked 100 Americans ***today*** this question I suspect the Godfather would come in on the top.Personally I don't think there has been any significant branding.
I am pleased that I enjoyed a story about family and revenge and how a father and his son can be so different. And Coppolla directed thios, not Scorcese.
Spelling, btw, is Scorscese and Coppola.
Actually (according to IMDB) it's "Scorsese".
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