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In Reply to: Kill "Kill Bill, Volume 1" posted by halfnote on November 29, 2005 at 20:51:25:
That made me want to see it again - the same 30 minutes, plus more.Next time I caught additional 20 minutes or so - and wanted to see more again.
It took four or five attempts - thanks to the cable service - for me to finally finish the film, meaning I saw the ending that many times.
It is a tricky film. I can understand your reaction, if you were expecting to see a conventional film. But it is more a work of ark, as grins indicated, than a plot-based work.
I am a Tarantino hater, not fan, but I would not deny his talent - too bad he almost never uses his true talent, resorting instead to making garbage. But the artistic side in KB is so strong it speaks its own language.
But I suspect if like you I started watching the film from beginning, it might irritate me too - would be harder to get to that art side, which is so abundantly present in the ending, and to me it was THAT that set the tone for the film.
Follow Ups:
Where is the artistic crux of this movie? It seems more like a festival of the cliche and commonplace. It's another Rocky movie with Uma Thurman in the star role instead of Sylvester Stallone. I won't say I've never changed my mind about a movie, or even that I haven't been completely wrong about some. But give me a hint. Drop a few breadcrumbs to guide me to what you see as the film's artistic merits.
Hard to describe it, but I would suggest you start like I did - with the last fight scene... it is full of true art and is incredibly beautiful. Even my wife, who hates Tarantino and violent movies, watched it and liked it.
you like the ending, multiple times, and what led up to it.
What you're missing is the context: seen properly, the film is even better than you think now.
Well, you protest so much your ego will prevent you from one day saying, "Tarantino is a genius! One of the most skilled and original talents working in film today!"
Skill is just that - skill, and genius also must have a heart - something that Tarantino has not shown yet. As I already stated - the skill part is there, now I am waiting for the other shoe to drop.I actually eventually saw the film from its beginning, so you are barking up the wrong tree. And I would still not consider it a great film overall - rather a patchwork. Although good patches were more present than in another such work - the Pulp Fiction.
stronger, more heart-warming story?
In Pulp Fiction, the love story between Uma and Mr. 707 I found captivating.
Jackie Brown: it's really a love story, too.
You almost don't notice it.I agree about the romance part in PF - it is perhaps the best part of the movie, with loose ends and unresolved tension... I liked it!
with KB2.
Together, they are a fantastic work of art; very different, as they must be to maintain interest in a story for such a long time.
That fight in the kitchen, with the closing line to the daughter, "If you feel raw about this in the future and come after me, I'll understand and I'll be waiting."
Just the right amount of compassion, tempered with the killer's anger.
Uma's performance raised KB1 up very high. That cute little Japanese girl killer was super, too, as was the cartoon interlude. A brilliant film, in its own right.
(Ok, I give up on you!)
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