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Amazing sequences, brilliant timing and dialogue. Terrific visuals. Depp is wonderful,
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Hate to say it, but Depp reminded me of Michael Jackson too much. But everything ells was great.
While I personally didn't have that problem, quite a few people have made the same comparison.
I really liked this movie-more than the original.
Jack
I thought it was *excellent* up until the point when Charlie enters the factory. In comparison, that part of the story was weak in the original film. Once he enters the factory however, I was terribly disappointed; the original film was better in every way.It's hard not to compare it to the original, but... Wonka as insecure and effeminate? A NOT scary boat ride? No fizzy-lifting drink? ONE Oompa-Loompa, cloned with computer graphics?
I hate to sound cranky, but the kid in me really was disappointed :-(
...they are very different.Have you ever read Roald Dahl's book? Which is closer to his original vision? Hint - Not Gene Wilder.
To me I couldn't care less which was closer to "the book" if "the book" was fiction. I understand why others such as yourself do care, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who is just more interested in which movie is better.
As for this movie, haven't seen the new one yet.
...an apple or an orange?You have to have a frame of reference.
I read the book a long time ago, but don't remember the details--you're probably right.It's terrible, but of the Roald Dahl books I read when I was young, Danny, Champion of the World sticks out most in my mind mainly because of the drugging and poaching of pheasants. Who isn't a fan of justifiable crime?
On another note ...
I thought the songs were totally forgettable and really hard to hear. I was leaning forward and still couldn't get a clear look into the lyrics and song. The dancing Loompa resembled a low budget cartoon and I personally found his repeated presence tedious. I know this isn't possible but to make a point - What if they had a charismatic figure like Zero Mostel or Peter Ustinov playing that part ? Or a fun to look at actor like Crispin Glover? It would have been much more gratifying for me anyway.Sometimes it bothers me to assume one is watching money sprayed from a firehouse on to the screen with such mediocre results.
Elfmann is brilliant. The songs were such a lift from Magical Mystery Tour, a homage in my opinion. A bow in the direction of Liverpool.
At the same time a slap in the face for people who thought that little round short men make good chorus lines. Sheer brilliance, on many, many levels. At last I see a film that is akin to peeling an onion....layered to the max.
"listen to the colour of your dreams...
turn off your mind, relax and float downstream
then it's not dying, then it's not dying
lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void
and it is shining, it is shining "
I'm glad you enjoyed it and I thought the film had some merit. I'm not so willing to throw the "B"(brilliant) word out as you. I'd save that for "The Wizard Of Oz" or "The Sound Of Music"....not sure if I catch the meaning of your "Tomorrow Never Knows" reference (from "Revolver").
Personally I'm tired of the overexposed Elfmann. He is basically a one trick pony who's finest moment was writing the Simpsons theme. I've heard more sucessful Beatle homages. (The Rutles, Todd Rungren , ELO, Cold Play , Prince to name a few)
his finest moments are all the screen stuff he has done. Disregarding that, Dead Man's Party by Oingo Boingo was a stone cold gas.
Watch the boat sequence again, playing that Beatle song at the same time.
The sequence with the squirrels was hysterical.
I don't want to revisit "Charlie.." but I thoroughly enjoyed your point of view.
All the best -Jim
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