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Board,By aesthetic, I mean where beauty all comes together: music, technique, photography, story, and 'humanity' (actors'/actresses' portrayal of the 'human condition').
I'm not a real movie-goer, but I'm going to nominate "Days of Heaven"
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is a film that stands out as an epic of beauty, a flim that takes 17th century painting and animates it, where every shot could almost be hung in an art museum.
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I guess you're right about O'Neill. But there's something about this ineptitude and fakery that make him compelling in the role in an odd sort of way. You have to wonder if Kubrick wasn't exploiting O'Neill's shallowness in some way.Marissa Berenson was certainly not going to win any Oscars either.
Kubrick, as you guys know, was notoriously fussy with his actors, often insisting on take, after take, after take to get the exact thing he was looking for.
Nichelson once quipped "Just because you're a perfectionist, Stanley, doesn't mean you're perfect."
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Disney probably only released the DVD of this movie in the USA to fullfil a contractual obligation with Studio Ghibli, as they released it mid-summer without much promotion at all."The Yamadas" is a series of animated vignettes depicting the ordinary lives of a Japanese familiy, taken, I think, from the pages of a daily newspaper comic strip. The style is deceptively simple: Black lines on white background with washes of color. But I always come away amazed at how rich it feels, and this appreciation grows upon repeated viewings IMO.
Those 2 works of art are just incredible, brilliantly made and bear deep connotations, symbols and how far twisted human minds can go..AP
# The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men # Samuel L. Jackson (Ezekiel 25:17)> Pulp Fiction <Plinius SA-REF----M-8----CD-101-------Martin Logan Ascents
Agreed though I found Corpses more original, I loved them both. Seems his unrestraint and lack of formal training was something that allowed him the freedom to let his minds eye flow to the screen.Found High Tension unusually good as well fwiw.
Hi BW,First, thanks much for the High Tension suggestion, just checked it out on IMDB..Will order the dvd..:)
I also agree with you on Corpses being more original, but we see more of Sid Haig in the sequel. Sid is one hell of a great actor, did the clown part superbly. On the whole I think the sequel has better acting from Otis and Baby and of course William Forsythe
was superb. Always loved William since I first saw him in Edward James Olmos' "American Me"..A great classic too, although not a horror movie.Was revisiting Kill Bill II last night and noticed Sid Haig's brief appearance as a bartender...:)
Happy Viewing..!
AP
# The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men # Samuel L. Jackson (Ezekiel 25:17)> Pulp Fiction <Plinius SA-REF----M-8----CD-101-------Martin Logan Ascents
AP , agree with all of your observations , esp William Forsythe who was incredible. Did you see him in the fabulous " Things to do In Denver When Youre Dead" . Another keeper . Let me know your thoughts on High Tension . I suggest viewing it alone , at night on a good system for first viewing. Its short so glue yourself till the end. You may never forget it.
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...you're not just showing off with the only foreign term you know, are you?Your post (which you surely must realize) lacks any substance or substantive worth: merely a simple little insult (apt for small minds). Do you even have the intellectual capacity to explain aesthetics? (Oh, right, you don't.)
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Guy
Mange merde, s'il vous plait.
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I'm looking forward to Malick's latest........only his fourth feature in 32 years!
...what's your take on D.of H.?
I really enjoyed it. Malick really gets to me. He "paints" film with images and sound rather than records. "The New World" is his latest set to be released this month.
P.G.,I just found this film extraordinary (and I'm pretty much biased against the medium of film for various reasons, documentaries being one of them, as you may have noted in an earlier post of mine down the page). I really can't explain it - saw it 'freshly' (meaning I had no idea who the director was AND didn't even know of any of the actors/actresses at the time, i.e., I wasn't partial toward it due to any fame associated with the making of it). That child-narrator was just fucking phenomenal (along with her performance - I could have adopted her on the spot!). My only complaint (so-called) would be the fire scene: seemed awfully long and a bit pointless (maybe natural disasters in life just bore me [!]).
For what it's worth, I found "Barry Lyndon" (directed by Kubrick) quite extraordinary, too. Overly romantic [in both senses of the term, i.e., the romance story and the romanticized rendering] but somehow I think of both films TOGETHER. I surely 'teared up' a-plenty with both films. No question on the emotions getting worked up.
Looking forward to your response.
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Guy* Verbatim and not Verboten *
I couldn't say since I first saw this film about 10 years ago. The first film of his that I viewed was "Badlands". Once I I knew Malick did that one I vowed to see all his stuff only to find out that "Days of Heaven" was all there was at the time! While I really, really enjoyed "Days of Heaven" I have to say that "The Thin Red LIne" is a better film. I consider it incredibly spiritual. Just the audio track alone gives me chills let alone the stunning photography. My favorite Malick film. Makes "Platoon" look like a college film project.
...seemed the director had quite found his style yet (I found it 'rough' or raw . . but that was a long ago impression).Thanks for your receptiveness.
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Guy* Verbatim and not Verboten *
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"Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
..the thing that carried Texas Chainsaw Massacre for me (apart from the suspense) was that haunting, sickly yellow filter which lent such a sombre, depressing aspect to the whole film.
Is that what he means by aesthtics?
...The Road Warrior, 1981.What more could you want in a film?
Simply a beautiful film.
I agree and own this and watch it often.
"The One Piece Bathing Suit" (UK), starring Esther Williams aka
"America's Mermaid". ~AH
'nuff said :)
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have synergy that approached genuine aesthetics. Colorful water
ballets set against magnificent but cold monolithic backdrops, might provide startling
contrasts, for instance. But on second thought, that might more likely degenerate into genuine anesthetics. He,he,he... ~AH
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Just visualize colorful water ballets with swimming, smiling 'mermaids'
over some monoliths round bout Jupiter. Was being facetious. No need
to get too analytical. Course could be presumptious of me tothink that you
have seen or know of water ballets,'mermaids'etc in any contexts, hence, no memories to make
imaginary superpositions. ~AH
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My original post in response to your query was also an attempt to
be facetious, i.e., "Million Dollar Mermaid". You will find that
from me on occasion in my efforts to offset the insidious snobbish
elitism, ad nauseum pretensiousness and vile invective that sometimes
finds it way onto this forum. (I do this a lot on "Pal Talk: Political
Forums" and usually get lots of laughs, helps tone down the rancor
sometimes. A fast wit helps. Rate of dialoguing on this forum is at
snails pace compared to that of Pal Talk. You think folks get mean-nasty here, wow! just check some
some of those political rooms, people get banned often.) That said,
there are lots of good dialogue here on variety of films. ~AH
like Our AuPh!!
~AH
...what is the most aesthetically satisfying film in all parameters?("Aesthetic" isn't an adjective, BTW. It's a noun.)
My favorite would be Jean Renois' Rules Of The Game, especially for the "portrayal of the human condition". Everything else about it - cinematography, music, staging etc. - is first rate, although it ain't in surround sound. It's the stunning writing, acting and direction that make this (possibly) my favorite film of all time.
...sometimes you wonder if any sane thought-out thought will get HEARD. Appreciate the recommendation: don't know a thing about the film (perhaps you can provide a summary). Is it in English (the director sounds French)?I believe "aesthetic" is an adjective: it describes (the same as with the word, "beautiful" which is a rough synonym and the same part of speech). You might be confusing this with "aesthetics" which is a discipline and is a noun (nouns being ideas).
Yes, I mean all parameters.
Thanks for your response.
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Guy* Verbatim and not Verboten *
I did a post-graduate seminar in the "Revolt Into Style: The Modern Aesthetic" at the Art Institute of Chicago as part of my aesthetics/art history course work.But I don't get all snippy about it.
The use in which you quote - "the modern aesthetic" - would support your statement (clearly a noun). However, I think you'd agree that is an Atypical useage not found in standard prose or speech . . similar to the word, "aesthete".What did you think of the course you took, incidentally?
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Guy* Verbatim and not Verboten *
Eight hours film.That is aesthetic. Pure.
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Try this one.
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Eight hours film. Just the Empire State Building.
Nothing else.
Just time passing by.You could go to...
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the most aesthetic by far. Chelsea Girls had far too much talking.
In relation to ESB, no doubt...
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at all, peppered you with innumerable inane questions?
Here is her reincarnation.
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I have an "aesthet-o-meter" purchased some years ago for $4 billion dollars and I simply plug it into my left ear five minutes after watching something "aesthetic" and it gives an objective measurement of relative aesthetic content.So far the most powerful reading was after watching episode 73 of "Car 54 Where Are you?"
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Car 54 Where are you was only on for 2 seasons of 30 episodes each. There was no 73rd episode.According to sources, the best episode was 55, I've Been Here Before. Also highly regarded was 52, The Biggest Day of the Year and 49 Toody and Muldoon meet the Russians.
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Now everyone knows I didn't really watch "Car 54!"
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