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In Reply to: King Kong...Beauty and a Beast posted by ToshiroofKreplachastan on December 14, 2005 at 05:50:31:
...that the whole process, however well done, means that actors are never in the same room with one another, as it were. It's all done with the green screen. Bad enough the post-pro and the dialog re-recording in isolation booths, but CGI adds another level to the phoniness.
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> ...that the whole process, however well done, means that actors are never in the same room with one another, as it were.It's been done since the first days of film, when actors didn't like each other or were unavailable for some reason, some basic editing trickery or stand-ins were often substitutes. Any time an actor's back is to the camera and they're facing away, there's no guarantee it's who you think it is.
Any decent actor should be good enough to hold a convincing conversation with a lamp post.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
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Another "advantage" perhaps of the isolated sound booth and the headphones.No real actor I've ever met thinks post-pro is a good thing.
> > > "Most actors I know are theatre actors and they spit on you!" < < <My suggestion: buy them all custidores for Xmas and have them practice hitting their marks with a better brand of smokeless tobacco. ;^)
xd
Maybe you should explain it for the majority here who are clearly scratching their heads. :o)
...a lot of spitting goes on in live, ensemble acting -- which you rarely get in the movies -- the mics in the isolation booths see all the spit -- I'll let you in on the joke.Oh! Already have.
Operative word: "Should".Perhaps you are unaware that there is a longstanding movement within moviedom for what's called "production sound". Directors and soundmen who go for that ideal realize that the drama and the comedy are all better when the actors work off each other.
Does the phrase "filmed before a live studio audience" strike a bell? Why do they go to the trouble?
Yep, ideally everyone should be in the same room playing off each other, but a good director can get good performances from talented actors in less than ideal circumstances. Of course, this assumes they wouldn't allow less than talented actors in front of a camera :)> Does the phrase "filmed before a live studio audience" strike a bell? Why do they go to the trouble?
Because the canned laugh tracks were becoming self-parodying, and as stand-up comedians got shows in the 70's they found it was easier to get them to play to a crowd instead of a camera. Sometimes a live audience is actually a bad thing, as the crowd gets restless through multiple takes; it depends on the actors, the material and the crowd.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
In the original Kong, I doubt Fay Wray was being traipsed up the Empire State Building. Seems to me CGI is simply a more sophisticated way to do what film maker's have been doing for years. At least in terms of films such as Kong. Now, CGI in James Bond films, that is another matter.
...one review mentioned that the famous misty island has now been replaced with detail-loaded scenery and denizens. Isn't misty scarier?
;^)
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